Pro Junior IV With Weber Blue Pup...Update

Discussion in 'Ampage Area' started by GreatGretsch, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. GreatGretsch

    GreatGretsch Country Gent

    Jun 25, 2008
    Pittsburgh suburbs
    I waited until the speaker was broken in to post my findings. I’m really happy with the Blue Pup speaker. The brittle highs from the Jensen PR10 have been replaced by the chime I was looking for. It’s never harsh sounding. The bottom end is big and clear...I’m seriously considering getting a Blue Dog (the 12” version) for my DRRI.
    This is a quick video using it live. In use is my Gretsch Hot Rod into the Pro Junior, with a Hall Of Fame Mini reverb. The volume was on 5. It is attenuated with a Dr Z Brake Lite. (This little monster is loud!)
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2019
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  2. GreatGretsch

    GreatGretsch Country Gent

    Jun 25, 2008
    Pittsburgh suburbs
    30 watt Alnico with light dope.
    The speaker clearance is about a little over half inch.... obviously the bell does not fit.
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  3. TV the Wired Turtle

    TV the Wired Turtle Gretschified

    Jul 25, 2009
    so cal
    pray tell why you dont take that goofy metal cage fender puts in the cab. Unscrew it and toss it across the ocean :) If you want to really protect the power tubes put hi temp dampers on them. It actually helps
    my 2 cents... Ignore at will :)
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  4. GreatGretsch

    GreatGretsch Country Gent

    Jun 25, 2008
    Pittsburgh suburbs
    Oh, it’s gone already. I was waiting until my new power tubes were delivered! Thanks for the tip on the dampers!
     
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  5. JParry335

    JParry335 Gretschie

    126
    Jan 22, 2019
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Do you have a part number or source for those? The EL84’s in my Pro Jr III don’t have that profile. They are straight up and down so the damper ring should be a different part one would imagine. Thanks!
     
  6. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
    Admin Post
    First off; nice work! I fast RH tremolo like that is no simple task, but you handled it quite nicely.

    I like the sound. It’s very natural. That is a little powerhouse.
     
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  7. GreatGretsch

    GreatGretsch Country Gent

    Jun 25, 2008
    Pittsburgh suburbs
    I plugged my DRRI into the Pro Junior...
    Wow! The Blue Pup sounds really nice with the DRRI but I wouldn’t necessarily say better than the C12K that is in the DRRI. It’s a matter of taste.
    I tested the two using my #1 guitar, a Gretsch Hot Rod with TV Jones Classic pickups.
    The Blue Pup (in the PJ cabinet):
    • Has a clearer sound
    • Chime galore but not as chunky
    • The bass is not as deep using the same setting. But you can turn the bass control up more on the amp without getting farty. It doesn’t get as deep sounding.
    • I imagine it would be a bit deeper sounding in the bigger DRRI cabinet
    • The resonant freq jumps out on the “G note” on the “A string, 10th fret”
    • Even using the rhythm pickup, it maintains a lot of clarity
    • Playing in the middle pickup selection (both pickups on) was sweet with lots of chime and harmonics
    • It is much more snappy sounding with a quicker response
    • It’s a little bit quieter than the Jensen C12K but by much
    • I imagine paired with a Weber Silver 10 (with a fuller lower end), it would sound fantastic. With the bigger DRRI cabinet it would be fat and clear with tons of chime
    • I plan on using this setup during my next band rehearsal
    The DRRI C12K:
    • Had a deeper bass response
    • Was a little louder
    • The resonant freq jumps out on the “E note” on the A string, 7th fret
    • Likes the rear pickup best
    • Nice chime with both pickups on, but not as clear sounding
    • The sound is very familiar, not necessarily better
    • Sounds more chunky with less chime
    I’m very tempted to replace the Jensen C12K with a Blue Pup and Silver 10. I can see it happening soon, actually...
     
  8. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
    Admin Post
    The Blue/Silver combo is a real winner. I’m sure you’ll love it.
     
  9. SaltyDog

    SaltyDog Synchromatic

    Age:
    70
    989
    Aug 23, 2008
    chasing the dragon
    I put a Weber Blue Dog in my DRRI shortly after I bought the amp. I'll never look back. I love the sound, and the bell cover even fits.
     
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