Pedal chain advice...

Discussion in 'Pedal Pushers Forum' started by sh4rkbyt3, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. sh4rkbyt3

    sh4rkbyt3 Gretschie

    Mar 8, 2019
    Elkton, MD
    Picked up a new Boss BCB-60 Pedalboard, not the one I wanted but GC didn't have the Pedaltrain model I wanted in stock so I made due for the time being.
    Here are the list of pedals I'll be using, in what order would someone recommend connecting them and why? Trying to learn as I go so thank you for your time and opinion.

    1) Boss BF-2 Flanger
    2) Boss DM-2 Delay
    3) Boss DM-2w Delay WazaCraft
    4) Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
    5) Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive
    6) Polytune 3

    Practicing on a BlackStar ID Core 10 amp.

    Playing through a Gretsch G7593T-BD
  2. thunder58

    thunder58 I Bleed Orange

    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    Tuner goes first ..... sorry , that's all I got
  3. vyndance

    vyndance Gretschie

    Dec 12, 2014
    Bear Valley Springs, CA
  4. RG7X

    RG7X Gretschie

    Nov 11, 2018
    Los Angeles
    +1 on the tuner being first in the chain (plus it can act as a mute switch in a live situation). Very opinionated topic although there are some key considerations. Do you have an effects loop on your amp? For starters, that'd be a great place for the delay pedal. Also, why 2 of the same delays? I know there's slight differences with the Boss Waza Craft models but curious why you would have both on the same board?
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  5. wabash slim

    wabash slim Friend of Fred

    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
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  6. sh4rkbyt3

    sh4rkbyt3 Gretschie

    Mar 8, 2019
    Elkton, MD
    Any help is appreciated :) Thank you.
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  7. calebaaron666

    calebaaron666 Country Gent

    Aug 15, 2018
    Portland, Maine
    This is the order I'd start with as well.
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  8. blueruins

    blueruins Country Gent

    May 28, 2013
    Savannah, GA
    That’s pretty much how I would do it. I would likely put the flanger before the chorus; especially if it’s a stereo chorus and that would be cool for running a two amp set-up with separate delays.
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  9. sh4rkbyt3

    sh4rkbyt3 Gretschie

    Mar 8, 2019
    Elkton, MD
    Effects loop per say? I have some settings on my amp that might qualify as that but it's only a small amp. The reason for the double delay is I'm trying to get that Billy Duffy sound for which he uses two delays with different timing as well as his flanger pedal and a little overdrive.
    The chorus is in lieu of a Roland JC120 which is out of the question since I live in an apartment and is a substitute (sort of) until I can get a Roland JC40 which may or may not (likely) give me as much chorus echo sound as the 120. And of course just a touch of Overdrive.
  10. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

    Apr 9, 2014
    Why not order the pedal train online? It will arrive soon and you wont have wasted time and money on a temp.
  11. EC Strat

    EC Strat Gretschie

    Jan 11, 2019
    I think most Blackstars have effects loops - run your modulation pedals (ie flanger, chorus and delay) all through the loop.

    OD / dirt through the preaamp
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  12. ramjac

    ramjac Gretschie

    Aug 14, 2011
    Agree with this.

    Those are all buffered pedals (the poly tune is switchable, I think) so that makes things simpler. Guitar cable goes to the Polytune input. Polytune out goes to Boss OD input.

    If using an effects loop, send the output signal from the OD pedal to the amp’s guitar input. If your amp has a clean channel and an overdrive channel, but you plan to use the Boss for all of your overdrive tones, then use the clean channel and keep the amp’s preamp volume lower. Connect the Send signal from the amp’s effects loop to the input of the Boss chorus pedal, then connect the remaining pedals in series and send the WazaCraft out to the amp’s effects return.

    If no effects loop, then connect all the pedals in series, with the guitar cable going into the Polytune and another cable from the WazaCraft output to the amp’s clean channel input. Keep the clean channel volume as low as you can to prevent the preamp from going into overdrive and messing up your sound.

    The only thing I didn’t quite get was the intent of having two different delays. If you’re planning to run them one at a time, then you’re good to go. If you want to run two at the same time you’re going to need more gear and possibly even another amp. The delays will need to be connected in parallel. There are many different ways of doing this, such as with splitters, buffers and ABY boxes. It will depend on your budget and preferences.
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  13. thunder58

    thunder58 I Bleed Orange

    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    I have this amp and I think it's as good as a 120. Great amp and comes with a head phone jack so you can keep peace with the neighbors . But I do think you're right about the chorus . It's a great chorus effect but it's just not enough for me ( I'm a chorus freak too ) .....I've been eyeballing the TrueTone Visual Sound H2O Chorus Pedal if that helps
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  14. dankas11

    dankas11 Country Gent

    Jul 6, 2014
    I agree with 654123
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  15. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    Age before beauty, pearls before swines.
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  16. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    No ; you need a wah-wah... :eek::confused::D

  17. wabash slim

    wabash slim Friend of Fred

    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    My amp has reverb and trem. I'm all set.
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  18. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    Although there are general rules how to chain effects/put them in the loop of an amp there are many brilliant sounding reasons to break these rules.
    I would try out every combination thinkable and decide then.
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  19. Crooner

    Crooner Friend of Fred

    Apr 15, 2009
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  20. sh4rkbyt3

    sh4rkbyt3 Gretschie

    Mar 8, 2019
    Elkton, MD
    Hahaha I already have a Dunlop Q595 ;)
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