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Okay....um, Gibson? You’re embarrassing yourself....

Discussion in 'Other Cool Guitars' started by TSims1, Nov 10, 2017.

  1. Synchro

    Synchro Super Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson, AZ
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    He got a very nice looking “hammer”. :)
     
  2. Tony65x55

    Tony65x55 Gretschified

    Age:
    61
    Sep 23, 2011
    The 'Shwa, Ontario, Canada
    Fenders (read Teles, Strats, Jags and Jazzies) can be lethal. Use with caution and never attempt to repel boarders with a Gretsch or Gibson, except in the most dire circumstances.
     
  3. Synchro

    Synchro Super Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson, AZ
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    If you use one as a defensive weapon often enough, you learn how to time matters precisely and the assailant will land in a thud at the downbeat of the opening measure of an 8 bar figure. I've actually come to depend on it as a rhythmic effect. :)
     
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  4. senojnad

    senojnad Gretschie

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    75
    409
    Jul 13, 2008
    Lehigh Valley, PA
    Reliced...?? Here is a specimen reliced instrument on display at the Philly Guitar Show (11/11/2017):

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  5. Synchro

    Synchro Super Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson, AZ
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    The ultimate relic: unplayable. :)
     
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  6. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Synchromatic

    802
    May 14, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    Given the choice between Gibby and Gretsch though, my money is on the Gretsch. Non self-ejecting headstock wins every time...
     
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  7. Setzerhotrod

    Setzerhotrod Country Gent

    Age:
    57
    Oct 26, 2011
    Anchorage Alaska
    If the only place your guitar wears out is where your hand/arm rests, better use better paint. Like the problem with GM hoods in the 80’s- no one liked that.

    Or you may have a skin condition ranging from unusually acidic or perhaps extremely rough and dry.
     
  8. Setzerhotrod

    Setzerhotrod Country Gent

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    57
    Oct 26, 2011
    Anchorage Alaska
    Perhaps the heads at Gibson are planning on running for public office or something.
     
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  9. Gretschtim1

    Gretschtim1 Country Gent

    Dec 4, 2012
    Dundalk, Md
    Awesome - that's the way you do it...:)
     
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  10. wabash slim

    wabash slim Country Gent

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    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    I knew that there was a reason for pointy guitars...
     
  11. dilver

    dilver Country Gent

    Feb 16, 2009
    NJ
    Yeah, Gibson does a lot of stupid ****, but the 2017 Custom Shop Les Paul Standard I bought earlier this year, is a fine, fine instrument. I'm still a fan and hope they can get out from under all this. Everyone blames Henry J, but he's not the only one making decisions there.
     
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  12. Tony65x55

    Tony65x55 Gretschified

    Age:
    61
    Sep 23, 2011
    The 'Shwa, Ontario, Canada
    Absolutely. Isn't that how they did the final gong hit in Bohemian Rhapsody?
     
  13. Tony65x55

    Tony65x55 Gretschified

    Age:
    61
    Sep 23, 2011
    The 'Shwa, Ontario, Canada
    You're so right. They still make some great guitars but the number of lemons are much higher than the price tag should suggest. And of course, Epi has raised their bar to a place where the biggest difference is largely the electronics and finishes. That hurts their rep badly when experienced players are saying stuff like that.
     
  14. wildeman

    wildeman Friend of Fred

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    That's a Kay and worth rebuilding believe it or not! Thee rockabilly bass.
    Or just slap some strings on and go cat go.
     
  15. TSims1

    TSims1 Friend of Fred

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta

    My Gibson Hummingbird is a treasure as well, and I grew up strumming on a 1965 B-25........I have a real soft spot in my heart for Gibson, and that is likely what fuels my anger.
     
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  16. Synchro

    Synchro Super Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson, AZ
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    That’s the case with me. If I didn’t love the brand, I wouldn’t care in the slightest.

    Gibson used to stand for something. They had lifetime warranties and stood behind their instruments as if each and every one was a favored child. Back in the pre-Norlin era, you could buy a Gibson sight-unseen and never think twice about it. On the rare chance that you got a lemon, they would make matters right.

    From what I can tell, the current philosophy is to manipulate the customer base and they don’t really care about customer satisfaction. The only thing they seem to care about is trying to force dealers and customers alike into new purchases. IMO, a professional quality guitar should be a lifetime purchase and every truly great guitar serves as advertising for every musician in the audience, amateur or professional.

    How many Gretsches has Chet’s ‘59 Country Gent sold? I’m looking at three as a type.
     
  17. Staffs Blue

    Staffs Blue Electromatic

    45
    Jun 27, 2016
    Stafford, England
    I'm a big fan of Gibson, in general, and have, I think, 12 including modern and vintage, semi and archtop, and a Grabber bass. Also a big fan of Fender and, of course, Gretsch, although I've sold two or three of the Gretsches recently. Because Gibson (to me) is one of the iconic names with a history of being used by some of my favourite players, I get concerned when the quality isn't up to scratch. I think, in general, it's pretty good as far as my own small collection is concerned, but one thing that annoys me is that on a couple of guitars (a Lucille and a 345), trying to 'vibrato' a chord results in the top E falling off the fretboard. It's so annoying - one of my 345's does it, but the other (same year) doesn't.

    Anyway - I'm not a fan of relicing (but each to their own) because my feeling is that a guitar should 'earn' its mojo and battles scars - no matter what it looks like and how skilfully it's done, it's just not 'real' - just my feeling anyway.

    Fender do it well, to be fair, although it's not my cup of tea (I did manage to get my hands on something that I've wanted for a while the other week - a CS Strat in Daphne Blue with Abby pickups, which is lovely) but the Gibson example which started the thread is a shocker! :)
     
  18. stevo

    stevo Country Gent

    May 1, 2012
    Atlanta
    I have yet to pick up a Les Paul from the factory in the last three years that has a decently sculpted nut. Way high slots that are cut dead straight. Any string pressed from the first to third frets will go 20 cents sharp. No excuse. I sort of have this same complaint about Gretsch as well, but I think Gibson is worse.

    On a good note, I just sculpted a new nut for my 6119 and it's excellent. Doesn't bind at all. Stays in tune well.
     
  19. montereyjack66

    montereyjack66 Country Gent

    Feb 29, 2012
    LA-ish
    Oh...the humanity!
     
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  20. A-Zed

    A-Zed Electromatic

    16
    Jun 15, 2017
    Canberra Australia
    Not worthy.....


    I Googled my symptoms. I just needed more guitars.