NGD: Not a Gretsch, but it is something RED. I admit I have a GAS problem.

Discussion in 'Other Cool Guitars' started by dreamingGretsch, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. DannyB

    DannyB Gretschie

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    Apr 26, 2019
    Michigan
    Love The Epiphone models and always wanted to get a Casino, unfortunately I am a lefty and Epiphone discontinued the left handed Casino model a few years ago (with much grumbling by my fellow left handed players on the Epiphone site but to no avail, they are still not making left handed Casinos any more and of course, its impossible to find any used ones). One of the reasons I turned to Gretsch and bought my Streamliner is because I was looking for a good left handed hollow body model and have been very happy with my choice, Still I envy all the Casino players out there, such a great guitar with a great vintage, think John Lennon and George Harrison of the Beatles right off the bat as two iconic Casino players. So congrats with your new acquisition, hope this will cure your GAS or at least put it in remission for awhile!
     
  2. dreamingGretsch

    dreamingGretsch Gretschie

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    Oct 12, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
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  3. dreamingGretsch

    dreamingGretsch Gretschie

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    Oct 12, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    I've always looked at these models, but for the longest time I never bought one until today.. I was just wasnt sure of the tone and how it will fit in my rig.. Now that I have one, I can make it work, and it does give me the sounds I never can get from my teles and solid bodies..

    The cure for GAS, hmm.. It did put it on remission, I have to stop buying and selling, its honestly tiring and have to put up an ad, talk to lowballers, meet up potential buyers that never shows up or cancels on the last minute.. Ive received a very good advice around here to stop buying and focus on what I really want.. the GAS I have now is for a White Falcon, which wont be able to buy anytime soon, its just too expensive.. but having a Casino, makes me want a Gibson ES330 too.. both will require at least a year or 3 to save up. Hahaha
     
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  4. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    Fair enough. Epiphone made a glorious looking red Casino, but it's Japan only and doesn't say Elitist(even though it is). Made by Terada(yep, same one that makes Gretsch).

    If you're seriously gassing I'd contact the big Japanese retailers like Ishibashi or a thrustworthy Japanese broker(read: one that uses his own pics). They will scour the locals for you. I did that two times when looking for a Japan made Epiphone LP with the Gibson open book headstock(not an Elitist). Expect to pay a slight premium, but I gather you're used to that. :)
     
  5. dreamingGretsch

    dreamingGretsch Gretschie

    278
    Oct 12, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    Would you have a contact you can share?
     
  6. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    I would but it's been a while. Most of the links I kept are dead. I'm not at home so I can't check the paperwork either.

    Ishibashi is the biggest seller and is still operating. https://www.ishibashi.co.jp/eng/
    Maybe Digimart, but note it's a guitar portal that links you to Japanese shops. Communication in English can be a frustrating exercise.
     
  7. dreamingGretsch

    dreamingGretsch Gretschie

    278
    Oct 12, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    Thanks!

    I’m also thinking of saving up, as we’re planning to go to Japan when my son can walk and be able to enjoy travelling 6-8 months from now and nail down a Casino/ES335 and a White Falcon!
     
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  8. Scooter127

    Scooter127 Synchromatic

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    Feb 25, 2019
    USA
    Congrats!

    I have a very similar Sheraton II I bought in 97 and it's one of my best guitars. Can't say that it feels cheap at all but it most certainly has a thin neck.
     
  9. DannyB

    DannyB Gretschie

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    Apr 26, 2019
    Michigan
    sounds like you have an incurable case of the GAS! A Gretsch Falcon or a Gibson ES 330! I can only dream of such guitars! best of luck in your quest!
     
  10. dreamingGretsch

    dreamingGretsch Gretschie

    278
    Oct 12, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    I got pretty good GAS pangs recently.. Im not sure how to curb it.. I thought about selling all (including my number 1) to get a White Falcon, wiser folks here told me not to..

    and now that Ive dipped my feet into the Epiphone/Gibson waters, Im afraid I have another deep pool to sink in, as if the Fender Pool and Gretsch Pool isnt deep enough...
     
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  11. dak55

    dak55 Synchromatic

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    May 31, 2018
    Mills River NC
    Congrats. Looks really nice. I'm not sure I could used to the jack on the top. Right angle plug maybe. Anyways, enjoy.
     
  12. dreamingGretsch

    dreamingGretsch Gretschie

    278
    Oct 12, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    Yeah, I wish it was on the side, but I dont mind having it there, its far away from my strumming line and I'm not really into wild dancing with guitars.. I occasionaly jump, but Im pretty tame.. I think it looks okay, especially with the myriad of knobs and one switch.. I mean its so busy down there, while Im used to my tele's having simple controls..
     
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  13. dreamingGretsch

    dreamingGretsch Gretschie

    278
    Oct 12, 2010
    Melbourne, Australia
    So being curious about these guitars, remember that this is my first time to dip my feet into the Epiphone/Gibson waters and Im very eager to try out the real thing.. This store is near me and I tried this one..

    https://www.guitarcolonel.com/index.php?id_product=176&id_product_attribute=0&rewrite=gibson-es330l-2009-custom-shop&controller=product


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    Safe to say that it was beautiful to see.. striking red and the feel is just something that needs to be experienced personally.. Strummed acoustically, loud. Resonant. Plugged in, glorious..

    But I cant help but feel that the Casino I have, in terms of playability, its almost the same.. fit and finish on the Gibson is top notch.. but my Casino has the same feel to it.. Maybe its just on my head.. I didnt bring my Casino to do an A vs B test to see how close my chinese casino to the american gibson, but after playing the Casino every night since I got it, I can say I got familiar with it quickly and can tell that it's 70-80% there in terms of feel and tone..

    Gibson pickups just have that certain warm, punch, articulate and growl to it.. Maybe this is because Im plugged into a 1970 Twin Reverb they have in stock, and Im playing through a Vox Pathfinder 15R at home, so definitely, theres a lot of differences right there.. Also this is the Long neck version and mine Casino has been built differently in terms of neck joint.. Maybe I need to find proper Gibson es330 with the same neck joint...

    The Gibson has spaghetti strings on it, I cant really judge it.. My Casino has 11's and I did my preferred set up and action on it, so it will feel really good to me.. its hard to decide which I prefer more without my Casino beside me to quickly change to... but all in all, Im happy that even my affordable Casino is in the General admissions seating of the ballpark stadium that is the ES330..

    Now I'm wondering where a Japanese Epiphone Casino is seated though.. I just wished they made a Cherry Red Elitist readily available.. I would be okay to pay a premium for that...
     
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