new 5422 - is she ok???

Discussion in 'Electromatic Gretsch Forum' started by BrianSelzer, Jan 19, 2020.

  1. BrianSelzer

    BrianSelzer Electromatic

    12
    Jan 19, 2020
    Germany
    Hello Gretsch Forum Members!

    I just got a new 5422T in amber and I love it (except for the bridge which is crap). I now noticed that the strings are not aligned at the center of the fretboard (see pics). The low E seems to be further away from the edge of the neck than the high E string. I have not yet noticed any problems in playing but still wonder if this a flaw or by design.
    Klaus
     

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  2. GlenP

    GlenP Gretschie

    481
    Jul 23, 2019
    WA
    Nothing wrong as long as it is comfortable and does not fall off the fret board and get stuck on the edge of a fret: see @18:30 what happens to Paul Simon on the David Letterman show!



    could probably have a new nut slotted and/or adjust the bridge if you are not happy with it.
     
  3. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Country Gent

    Mar 6, 2014
    Phoenix, AZ
    Assuming those are dead center photos, I don't think thats a nut problem, more like a bridge position issue. You likely have a secured bridge too, so if confirmed by the shop you bought it from, I'd return it for another. No need to deal with that problem by adding more money to it. On the other hand, it won't cost much to float the bridge.
     
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  4. Lockupyourfatdog

    Lockupyourfatdog Gretschie

    497
    Aug 8, 2016
    Everett wa
    I’d take it back and swap it. You just got it. At the very least the strings should line up properly. It looks like the three treble strings don’t line up with the pickup right.
     
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  5. GOOBALL JEFF

    GOOBALL JEFF Gretschie

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    please gretsch don't start putting out crap guitars like fender and gibson
     
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  6. BrianSelzer

    BrianSelzer Electromatic

    12
    Jan 19, 2020
    Germany
    thank you all, I will contact the shop and probably return it. Btw, this one was built in 2017.
     
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  7. G5422T

    G5422T Country Gent

    May 24, 2012
    usa
    Return it. No need to start out that way with a new guitar.
     
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  8. JC higgy

    JC higgy Friend of Fred

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    Jun 6, 2008
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    Welcome to GT Klaus!

    Sorry to see you're having to return the new geet,hope ya get it sorted out sir!
     
  9. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

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    Dec 1, 2010
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    Welcome to the forum, Klaus!
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  10. T Bone

    T Bone Country Gent

    Welcome, hope an exchange is readily done.
     
  11. Jelly Roll Horton

    Jelly Roll Horton Synchromatic

    842
    Nov 10, 2017
    Portland, OR
    That is a wonderful segment. Paul Simon had and has a wonderful voice. Thanks for the link.
     
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  12. ZackyDog

    ZackyDog Friend of Fred

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    Thanks, Glen. Another "reinforcement" of how great Paul is.

    Incidentally, a repair technician returned my newly-fretted G6122-1962 with the same "string-stuck-under-the-fret as Paul Simon's.
     
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  13. GlenP

    GlenP Gretschie

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    Jul 23, 2019
    WA
    Sometimes I play a little heavy handed, rhythm strumming. and on my homebuilt Tele there is no lipstick cover on the neck pickup. On occasion I have gotten the high E string stuck under the edge of the top bobbin plate.
     
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  14. BrianSelzer

    BrianSelzer Electromatic

    12
    Jan 19, 2020
    Germany
    coming back , here's a more zoomed in pic at the necks end. I did measure distances (in the pics) and there is an offset already at the nut. The string center to edge distance ratio between lowE and highE is 1.24 at the nut. At the neck end the situation is worse. Here this ratio is 2.06. Note how offset the pickup screws are from the strings at the lowE side. I wonder what the main problem is here. I guess that the string spacing dictated by the bridge must be wrong and the angle between bridge and strings is causing this? What do you think? Are the PU screws really dead center with the strings on a well built instrument?

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  15. Robbie

    Robbie Country Gent

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    Jun 17, 2013
    Sarnia Ontario Canada
    Looking at both E strings it does seem there is an alignment issue. It is repairable but if you can exchange the instrument without a lot of fuss you might want to consider it.
     
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  16. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Welcome friend , glad you're here
     
  17. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree also guys and thank you @GlenP for posting . When I first got my drivers license I had a '72 Volkswagen Beetle with ..( yup ) an 8-track tape player ( I was so cool ) . Had a Paul Simon live 8-track and and still to this day " Lincoln Duncan " is a favorite of mine . Played it while I was typing too ...thanks guys , great memories ;)
     
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  18. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Gretschie

    A new guitar must be perfect.
     
  19. mschafft

    mschafft Synchromatic

    590
    Jan 19, 2017
    Switzerland
    It would be much more logical to reposition the bridge than to do a neck reset.
    At any rate this is not acceptable on a new guitar.
    A good tech should reposition the bridge and then it could be sold as refurbished.
    You just want to return it and get a flawless one if you can.
     
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  20. jfassett

    jfassett Synchromatic

    528
    Dec 9, 2017
    Tucson
    I agree the tune o matic bridge is garbage, I put space control bridges on my 5122 and 5420 that I got on Amazon for around $20 bucks and I’m pretty happy with them. That bridge would probably take care of your alignment problem as well
     
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