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Discussion in 'Fred's Barcalounge' started by pmac11, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. pmac11

    pmac11 Synchromatic

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    New book day ! [​IMG]
     
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  2. Ricochet

    Ricochet Gretschified

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    Congrats. Too many syllables in the title for me, but I wish you luck!
     
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  3. pmac11

    pmac11 Synchromatic

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    Thanks Ricochet! It ain't fluffy, that's for sure.
     
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  4. russmack

    russmack Country Gent

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    Whoee, that looks interesting.

    Probably unable to be comprehended too. But I'll give it a shot.

    Why is jazz so damn intellectual? I guess that we just have to go with the flow such as ; I like the sounds. Or I go with the ostrich with head in the sand, who says; I don't understand, therefore I won't try to understand.

    And there's always some-one like me who says: What the hell was that? Play it again.

    lol

    Russ
     
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  5. audept

    audept I Bleed Orange

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    IMO, Jazz is like abstract art. You don't have to understand it to either like it or dislike it on an individual basis.
     
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  6. russmack

    russmack Country Gent

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    I think I like your post Audept.

    But it doesn't mean I understand it all.

    I've made some fabulous acrylic paintings that I think are B/S. So does every-one else. They've all been consigned to the rubbish bin. Which I think is where they belong.

    If I go off on an unbroken stream of musical (debatable) noise, I think I've created a disgusting mess of pretentious crap.

    But, somewhere in the universe, someone will say - good stuff. Maybe even here - on earth.

    Laughing a lot.

    Russ
     
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  7. thunder58

    thunder58 Gretschified

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    Nothing like a good book , enjoy
     
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  8. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

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    It is always good to have some theoretical background. The more the better.
    I learned a little theory when I took 8 years of piano-lessons as a kid. (I am no sight-reader, though.)

    I am a self-taught guitarists. It was incredible helpful to know some theoretical basics.
    When it comes to songwriting and arranging it makes everything easier.
    Knowing some theory helps to communicate musical ideas to others, too.
    So go ahead. I hope that you enjoy your read.
     
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  9. pmac11

    pmac11 Synchromatic

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    It's pretty heavy on music theory to be sure, but I find it interesting. I mean, it is music after all ! Fair warning though, it's written in standard bass clef/treble clef notation for piano, no tab or chord diagrams. On the plus side the material is organized and explained very well.
     
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  10. pmac11

    pmac11 Synchromatic

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    Well you could say that about any genre of music, right? :)
     
  11. audept

    audept I Bleed Orange

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    Essentially it's true that like or dislike exists within each genre, and between genres. In addition some particular pieces may have associations with pivotal life events, both good and bad. In music, everything is possible.....
     
  12. LivingMyDream

    LivingMyDream Country Gent

    I thinks it's always good to expand one's horizons. Enjoy pmac11!
     
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  13. pmac11

    pmac11 Synchromatic

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    I like learning theory for the same reason - it opens up a lot of doors when composing if you know beforehand what's likely to work and what mood (dark, tense, bright, etc) it will project. The alternative is like trying to drive a car without windows imo. Thanks for the encouragement!

    BTW.... Loudnlousy is a great name for a guitar forum !
     
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  14. pmac11

    pmac11 Synchromatic

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    Like all language, music is a continuum. It is built on what came before it. One example: the ii-V-I chord progression is very common in jazz, but is also found in music more than 150 years older. It's also found in songs by The Who and The Beatles, to name but two.

    So a bit of theory can explain the structure of songs by Chopin, Miles Davis, Peter Townshend and John Lennon.

    As for likes and dislikes, that's on a song by song basis for me. Sometimes even parts of songs will light me up. As you rightly point out, these are highly subjective reactions, with a large emotional component.

    Ah Sunday morning!
     
  15. pmac11

    pmac11 Synchromatic

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    Thank you sir!
     
  16. GoLeafsGo

    GoLeafsGo Gretschie

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    Took me a long time to get jazz, but once I figured it out, I enjoy it more. I just think of it as a 3 very talented musicians playing 3 songs very well at the same time.
     
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  17. audept

    audept I Bleed Orange

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    In my case, late Sunday evening after a very nice Pinot Noir from Central Otago, NZ. ;)
     
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  18. Ricochet

    Ricochet Gretschified

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    I love Jazz... but one of the many tragic comedies in my life is, even after listening to it for maybe 25 years, I totally do not get what is happening. :oops:
     
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  19. pmac11

    pmac11 Synchromatic

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    Now that sounds like a cozy spot on the continuum. Music to my ears :)
     
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  20. wabash slim

    wabash slim Friend of Fred

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    Rock is playing three chords to an audience of thousands.

    Jazz is playing thousands of chords to an audience of three.
     
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