Locking Tuners

Discussion in 'Technical Side of Things' started by Dave Gallagher, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. Dave Gallagher

    Dave Gallagher Electromatic

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    Oct 14, 2017
    St.Louis Mo.
    Has anyone put locking tuners on a Electromatic Jet? If what make?
     
  2. TSims1

    TSims1 Gretschified

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta
    Curious why? If it’s to increase tuning stability, it won’t help. The nut and bridge are the culprits there, and there are better ways to help that situation. If it’s simply to change strings faster or because the tuners on there suck and you feel like “hey.....why not lockers while I’m at it?”.....then that makes sense.
     
  3. Dave Gallagher

    Dave Gallagher Electromatic

    12
    Oct 14, 2017
    St.Louis Mo.
    Locking tuners have helped on my Fender Strat and on my Danelectro U3 reissue. Locking tuners do help with tuning stability. The nut should always have a bit of graphite in the grooves to help. My playing style stretches the strings quite a bit.
     
  4. HypotenusLuvTriangle

    HypotenusLuvTriangle Country Gent

    Oct 27, 2010
    Whittier, Ca
    Any locking tuners you get, you will need to ream out the current holes. There's no drag and drop. unfortunately. I searched and searched. Nothing. I put some HipShot locking tuners on my G5120. I love em. Also drilled out the pins in my bigsby. Super sweet.
     
  5. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
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    I have Sperzels on my 5120 . Should be a standard item on every guitar , love 'em too but like @HypotenusLuvTriangle said , ream out the current holes
    ( each side of head stock , front and back ) or better yet , leave it up to your luthier
     
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  6. englishman

    englishman Gretschified

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    62
    Apr 5, 2014
    Detroit
    If locking tuners do help tuning stability, then it's likely you were doing too many wraps before.
    I do have to say locking tuners help with Bigsby restringing. I tweak the ball end with my fingers, put the ball end on the pin and holding it there feed the string through. Keeping tension on the string feed to through the tuner, pull tension and lock.
     
  7. JCarno

    JCarno Gretschie

    113
    Jun 22, 2014
    Finger Lakes
    I put Gotoh locking tuners on my 5445t. If I'm not mistaking, they were drag and drop. Don't remember having to ream.
    YMMV.
     
  8. Dave Gallagher

    Dave Gallagher Electromatic

    12
    Oct 14, 2017
    St.Louis Mo.
    Locking tuners help because there is no wraping around of the strings. To put strings on you pull the string through the tuner string hole tighten the knob on the back of the tuner, bend the string to a right angle and cut the excess off. There is no wrap around the pole. A few turns of the tuner key to get it in tune and you are good to go. If you have multiple wraps of the string you are doing it wrong. It is the mulitple wraps that cause tuning instability. On my Strat there is only a half wrap and it really stays in tune.
     
  9. Bertotti

    Bertotti Friend of Fred

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    I never got why people have a problem with stringing. I know guys who put two or three wraps on I always just set the hole on the tuner just shy of 90 degrees from the nut pull it through so I can lift a 3/4 of an inch give or take and wrap and bend it around the string then tighten. I never get a full wrap doing this never had tuning instability and it is quick. Is it that big of a deal to do? I do on occasion wrap two times if I know I will be pulling the strings off the pins for bridge work setups but generally snug it up once the work is done.
     
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