Les Paul explains why the SG design was not for him

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  1. T Bone

    T Bone Country Gent

    Stumbled on to this video of Les Paul detailing why he wasn't enamoured with the SG when they introduced it as the new Les Paul guitar design.
     
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  2. ponca

    ponca Gretschie

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    Love this.
     
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  3. LivingMyDream

    LivingMyDream Country Gent

    After reading several articles over the years, it's good to hear it straight from Les Paul himself. Thanks T-Bone.
     
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  4. 5120mantis

    5120mantis Country Gent

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    Man, i miss that guy.
     
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  5. Sabato

    Sabato Synchromatic

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    Chuck Berry used to bend the neck of his ES-355 for just that effect. In the documentary "Hail Hail Rock and Roll" he tries to show Keith Richards how to do it but gets impatient and does it himself.
     
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  6. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

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    I can see why he didn't like them, here's your new cheap, slab body.....basically Telecaster... He's like, where's my beautiful carved, bound thick body?
    And i love SG's....got two.
     
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  7. 5120mantis

    5120mantis Country Gent

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    "LEAVE THE AMP AS I SET IT!"
     
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  8. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

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    SG, the world's first pointy, and I would argue still the pointiest, guitar.
     
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  9. radd

    radd Country Gent

    Dec 27, 2017
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    Les Paul, what a talent and creative guy. It is said that he did have a somewhat creative memory when it came to the past.
     
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  10. MotorCentaur

    MotorCentaur Gretschie

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    Gibson's Modern(e) line, the Flying V and Explorer came out in 1958, a good 3-4 years before the SG.
     
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  11. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

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    And the strat came out in 52, and I think the strat was the precursor to modern metal/pointy guitars. I guess the first point guitars are really the florentine cutaways with the super sharp/pointy upper bout.

    When did those come out. Gibson CF 100 as early as 1950.

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  12. MotorCentaur

    MotorCentaur Gretschie

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    I think we will have to disagree on this.

    For one thing, the Strat is not a pointy guitar, anywhere. It "evolved" into shredder "Super-Strats" like the Yamaha Pacifica, or the Ibanez Jem. Still not pointy. Probably influenced the B.C.Rich Bich.

    Having a point (florentine) or two (SG) does not make a "pointy" guitar, imo. That term refers to the whole body being pointy on 1 or 2 axises.

    Most pointy guitars evolved more or less directly from the Flying V and Explorer. Look at the Dean Razorback, or ML, and their weird knockoff variants like my favorite the so called Death Dagger, or Rand Rhoads' Jackson offset V.
     
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  13. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

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    Happy to disagree. Imo, has point = pointy. :)
     
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  14. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

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    I would give my right leg for an early sixties LP junior.
    But I can totally understand the BIG man. It`s design is so far away from his original thought.
     
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  15. dmunson

    dmunson Gretschie

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    One point, probably somewhat painful for him, that Les never discussed, was that he was in the process of divorcing Mary Ford and not wanting to add the additional income for her lawyer to lay claim to. He just did not want to be assiciated with the new model before he even saw it.
     
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  16. swivel

    swivel Synchromatic

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    The thing about an SG compared with a Strat or Tele etc is the SG body is so small and a bit thin too. It seems more in the line with the Ibanez Stevie Vai types etc.
     
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  17. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

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    Don't we all, it's a very human trait! ;)
     
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  18. Sabato

    Sabato Synchromatic

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    He also had a creative memory when it came to the present. He had next to nothing to do with the creation of the Gibson Les Paul, the monicker was pure marketing.
     
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  19. MotorCentaur

    MotorCentaur Gretschie

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    Ask 10 random people (or guitarists, ha) to draw you a sketch of a "pointy" guitar. I can "guarantee" you that not one of them will draw a dreadnought with a Florentine cut or an SG shape. It would be way more akin to something like this:
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  20. T Bone

    T Bone Country Gent

    3 years I think. Pretty sure they were first released in 1958. Might be a very few from 1957?
     
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