Labeling Artists

Discussion in 'Fred's Barcalounge' started by drmilktruck, May 23, 2019.

  1. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck Gretschified

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
    I've been listening to the Cure a lot lately. While I completely understand their reputation as a mope rock band, several of their songs are ones that make me happy while listening. Like Lovecats, Friday I'm In Love and especially this one:



    Can you think of other artists whose reputation ignores significant parts of their music?

    PS Luke Doucet does a great version of Lovecats, on his first album.

     
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  2. speedicut

    speedicut Friend of Fred

    Jun 5, 2012
    Alabama
    I like that Doucet video, Falcon sounds great
     
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  3. sh4rkbyt3

    sh4rkbyt3 Gretschie

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    Mar 8, 2019
    Elkton, MD
    Oooooh that Falcon does sound good! I'm surprised Robert Smith didn't include one of these in a few of The Cure's song repitoire. Maybe it just wan't his thing but I think it would have added a nice boost of spectrum to their sound.

    The Cure and Smith had a unique opportunity with their style of music and videos. They came out just before the peak of the goth style or in the midst of it but infused their music with something that a lot of bands weren't doing which was just adding some "happy" sound and lyrics with the sound being remeniscent of the 50's music but with a little twist to it and a little bit faster beat. It was readily accepted by fans that weren't into the whole "goth" thing but also accepted by the "goth" fans as well which at the time was very difficult.

    Unlike a lot of bands at the time, I could actually listen through a whole Cure album and enjoy it all the way through to the end and leave feeling satisfied.
     
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  4. section2

    section2 Synchromatic

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    Dec 21, 2016
    Toronto
    There's a reason he called his band "Luke Doucet & The White Falcon." :)

    He and his wife, singer-songwriter Melissa McLelland, are a much-loved duo up here in Canada. They've both had successful solo careers, and they play together under the name Whitehorse.
     
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  5. JeffreyLeePierre

    JeffreyLeePierre Gretschie

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    Nov 11, 2018
    Paris, north down Montmartre hill
    About The Cure: I guess most people associate them to the Seventeen Seconds / Faith / Pornography trilogy, hence that cold/dark reputation.
    Now they did not started that way: Three Imaginary Boys was much more diverse than that. And it's already finished with The Top (and singles from that period). The Head On The Door's singles In Between Days and Close To Me and later Just Like Heaven also are are pretty joyful pop songs (possibly except the lyrics, when I used to listen to them I was fully unable to understand them).
    I don't know whether Robert Smith ever told what he felt about being the reference band leader for the (not funny) goth population. Possibly his only answer was to release The Lovecats and others. Which in general was no understood. And you cannot bite the hand...

    BTW: Seventeen Seconds never seemed dark to me. Nor a large part go Faith. Slow (as far as I remember) but not dark. Again I never tried to understand the lyrics : you might quote lots of sentences that are really depressive ("It doesn't matter if we all die") :)


    EDIT-- Actually, they are not slow if you consider the tempo of A Forest or Primary. They are slow to develop. For instance; more than 50 seconds intro for A Forest. Now that's rather common because of 70 minutes CD where every single track has a (boring) 4 minutes duration. But then, that was a long long intro for bands that were not prog rock.
     
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  6. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    17 seconds. Yes, it's the only record I have from The Cure. I remember the title "In your house" :



    I also remembers many of my student friends (boys as girls) who where dressed and hair-cut like Robert Smith... Their parents were :eek:, and us we were :D ! Funny time, if I can say so...

    Who remembers this band, from the same era ? Midge Ure, Chriss Cross, Warren Cann, Billy currie... :rolleyes:




    Personally, I was more into - and I'm still in - another kind of music in favor at that time, which has vanished, and reborn since, under the name EM "Electronic Music" today :




    Skip if you can't stand : I'll understand it clearly...;)

    A+!
     
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  7. markeebee

    markeebee Country Gent

    Here's the Cure playing in the shopping centre of our home town when they were called Easy Cure and we were all still at school. You can see Robert playing a Firebird copy that I later bought from Porl Thompson when we were in a band inbetween his stints in the Cure. Wish I still had it, it'd be worth a fortune.

     
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  8. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

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    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    The complete era of new-wave went-by under my radar.
    I am not able to connect to this kind of music at all.
    The attitude, the guitarplaying, the sounds and even the fashion seemed completely unattractive to me. (off-topic, sorry.)
     
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  9. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    Yes, with a few exceptions, I was - and I'm still - in a close position for hard-rock and metal : no real feeling connections to these styles too... :(

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  10. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

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    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
    Same here for the most part, although I did like The Police, Talking Heads, Simple Minds and The Cult. It wasn't until about 10 years ago that I heard "Love Cats" on the radio and realized what a killer tune it was. Same with the Flock of Seagulls "I Ran". Fortunately there's Spotify, and I can go back over that decade and see what other good stuff I missed.

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  11. thunder58

    thunder58 I Bleed Orange

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    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    Labeling Artist you ask ?? You would not want me to " label " .......Darrel " I love me who do you love " Hall ....would you ?
     
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  12. thunder58

    thunder58 I Bleed Orange

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    Dec 23, 2010
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  13. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

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    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    Who am I to not love this band...no "new wave" imho. Billy rules.
     
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  14. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck Gretschified

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
    Like every musical era there were hits and misses.

    Admittedly not a big guitar friendly genre for the most part, although some players were quite tasty.
     
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  15. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

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    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nah, I can't go for that.
    But She's Gone was a great tune.
    Maneater, not so much.

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  16. thunder58

    thunder58 I Bleed Orange

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    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    Ughhh....
     
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  17. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    He played one when's i saw them in Montreal.
     
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  18. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck Gretschified

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
  19. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck Gretschified

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
    Another great Ultravox tune:



    Visage was similar:

     
  20. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    Yes, exactly ! There was already Midge Ure and Billy Currie (Ultravox), Chris Payne and Cedric Sharpley (Gary Numan / Tubeway Army) in Visage.



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