Is there a way to power this?

Discussion in 'Pedal Pushers Forum' started by diamoroso, Mar 3, 2019.

  1. diamoroso

    diamoroso Electromatic

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    Feb 4, 2019
    San Diego, CA
    Hey guys, hoping someone can help me here with this question. My electrical knowledge is pretty basic, so this is probably a pretty simple question to some of you.

    Basically, I have a TC Helicon vocal processor that needs a 12v power supply. My Friedman power bank has 10 9v outputs. In the manual it states that I can use a provided cable to use 2 9v outputs as one 18v, so my first question is whether the 18v connection would power the 12v pedal? If not, is there something I can buy to convert an output or two to 12v? I would like to avoid buying a whole new power bank for the one pedal.
     
  2. BuddieGreen

    BuddieGreen Gretschie

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    Sep 3, 2018
    indiana usa
    some pedals can handle higher voltage and some cannot. id do alittle research and see if your helicon can handle 18v. dont just plug it in to find out :), to move 9v up or 12v down would require a transformer and i assume the cost of such a device would run as much as a cheap power supply. maybe someone else knows of an option i dont, as im certianly no expert.
     
  3. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
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  4. r0de0

    r0de0 Gretschie

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    Consider a 18V to 12V DC-DC converter:
     
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  5. Hydroman

    Hydroman Gretschie

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    Feb 29, 2016
    FUNtucky, Ca.
    Buy the correct power supply and plug into your power strip.
     
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  6. swivel

    swivel Synchromatic

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    May 13, 2018
    PNW
    Have you measured your power source's actual DCV? Some are way below what they state. But also look at the Helicon manual and see if it gives an input voltage range... many do.
     
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  7. Ricochet

    Ricochet Gretschified

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    I'm not helpfull but...you paid $$$ for a Friedman power supply and it doesn't even have an 18 or 12V out?!
     
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  8. diamoroso

    diamoroso Electromatic

    85
    Feb 4, 2019
    San Diego, CA
    Thanks for the replies guys, going to look through everything, lots of good suggestions.

    I have the original power supply, I am just hoping to find a way to have everything powered by the same source.

    I've been using a 1spot way too long, so these power boxes are new to me. All my guitar pedals are basic 9v, and I thought the vocal processor was 18v, which the Friedman can do. Unfortunately I was too impatient to check first. The power supply is very nice, very quite, so I'm hoping to make it work somehow.
     
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  9. Lizardkinged

    Lizardkinged Friend of Fred

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    Oct 5, 2009
    Michigan
    LOL

    Voodoo Labs. Never looked elsewhere and probably won't. I've got 2 Pedal power 2 plus' and an Iso 5.

    For the OP I'd get an ISO5, or a PP2+ if you want to piggy-back your friedman to the PP2+ (as it has an outlet on the back for that purpose). If the friedman does I'd just get the ISO5.
     
  10. diamoroso

    diamoroso Electromatic

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    Feb 4, 2019
    San Diego, CA
  11. Hammerhands

    Hammerhands Country Gent

    Aug 26, 2011
    Winnipeg
    It’s an expensive version of what Wildeman linked to.
     
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  12. diamoroso

    diamoroso Electromatic

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    Feb 4, 2019
    San Diego, CA
    I guess I figured that, but I don't know how easy that'd be to wire myself. Definitely going to look into that before buying the Supa-Nova, but me being pretty naive on electronics I liked the idea of one being prefabricated for my exact purpose.
     
  13. Ricochet

    Ricochet Gretschified

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    Very expensive...the Knacro converter is 1A out, the Schmancy Nova is 550mA
     
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  14. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    Jeez I would not pay $70 for a power adapter to accommodate one pedal. And you gotta mount that on the board too.

    Look into strymon, Cioks and VooDoo labs, do the research get the right power supply for all your needs, then sell your old power supply. My guess is that you'll be in a similar financial position but have a much easier board to navigate. I love the strymon because it accommodates almost any setup and is expandable.
     
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  15. diamoroso

    diamoroso Electromatic

    85
    Feb 4, 2019
    San Diego, CA
    Henry, thank you for mentioning Cioks, I have never heard of them, but they seem to make the only 10 output power supply that will actually power this pedal. The Strymon Zuma 12v only has 375mA, which unfortunately the TC Helicon requires 400mA. Financially, it's probably about even between selling the Friedman to purchase the Cioks or just purchasing the expensive adapter. Gonna think this thru a bit before deciding what to do, I love the Friedman because it's dead quite and my entire rig is now sounding just as I want it. Not sure how much that's the power source though, because I also got the buffer bay.
     
  16. wabash slim

    wabash slim Friend of Fred

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  17. diamoroso

    diamoroso Electromatic

    85
    Feb 4, 2019
    San Diego, CA
    Haha, doesn't take batteries unfortunately.

    For most of my life I just played straight into the amp, maybe with a single dirt pedal, so all this is pretty new to me. I thought I had done enough research ahead, but I still missed this detail. My band is playing bigger and bigger gigs, so I've been investing a lot to perfect my live sound both guitar and vocals. I've got it pretty much perfect now, other than being able to power my vocal and guitar pedals on one power supply.
     
  18. Hydroman

    Hydroman Gretschie

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    Feb 29, 2016
    FUNtucky, Ca.
    I second the VooDoo Labs , I own 2 different ones and they are versatile. I also own a couple other Brands that run 12 volt and 18 volt as well.
     
  19. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

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    Dec 1, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    If you parallel the 2 switchable 12V outlets of the Zuma you will get 750 mA capability
     
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  20. rcboals

    rcboals Country Gent

    Nov 21, 2008
    Springfield Oregon
    How do you expect our economy to keep on the roll we are on if you try to avoid buying new gear? The onespot pro CS7 and CS12 has 9v/12v isolated outputs.
     
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