I Can't Tell You Why - Can you tell difference between a Strat and a Jet ?

Discussion in 'Songs in the key of Gretsch' started by Waxhead, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    Here's a recording I did of the Eagles song "I Can't Tell You Why".
    The guitar mix has both a single coil US made Strat and Jet 6131 with TVJ Classics on separate channels plugged into a Mesa Boogie 5:50 amp. In 2 separate solos I used a Jet in one and a Strat in the other.
    An MI Audio Crunchbox pedal was used for both solos and same touch of delay also.

    Can you tell which guitar was used for solos 1 and 2 :)

    https://www.soundclick.com/html5/v4/player.cfm?songID=11498260
     
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  2. new6659

    new6659 Gretschie

    320
    Dec 10, 2018
    Southwestern Ontario
    I'll guess Jet for the first and strat for the second - but it's only an educated guess:D
     
  3. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    hmm ok I'll wait till we get some replies before I say which was which :)

    These were the 2 guitars used

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  4. blueruins

    blueruins Country Gent

    May 28, 2013
    Savannah, GA
    Well there's your problem right there...
     
  5. Gretschmen65

    Gretschmen65 Synchromatic

    569
    May 20, 2016
    Australia
    Jet 1, Strat 2 :p
     
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  6. LivingMyDream

    LivingMyDream Country Gent

    I'm going with Strat 1, and Jet 2. Although I don't know what pickups you have in the Strat, the first solo sounds a little more Strat-like to me, maybe on the neck pickup, or neck and middle.

    This will be interesting.
     
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  7. jfassett

    jfassett Gretschie

    311
    Dec 9, 2017
    Tucson
    That solo really needs to be played on a hollow body, just my opinion for what it's worth, which is not much, ha!
     
  8. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    too late now :)
     
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  9. r0de0

    r0de0 Gretschie

    Age:
    61
    111
    Jul 7, 2011
    Collingwood, ON Canada
    1: Jet 2: Strat
     
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  10. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    Prize for a good ear goes to Living My Dream :)

    Solo 1 is the Strat in no 2 position - pups are Lace Sensor Hot Golds - noiseless single coils used by E Clapton and others.

    Solo 2 is the Jet with filtertrons in middle position recognisable with a fatter fuller richer tone.
    I prefer the Jet myself.

    Elsewhere in the track for clean parts I used the Strat in one channel and Jet in the other.

    Thanks to everyone for your interest :)
     
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  11. LivingMyDream

    LivingMyDream Country Gent

    The pups may be why I recognized the Strat. I don't have the Lace Sensor Hot Gold in any of my Strats, but I do have the Lace Sensor Gold set in one of my Strats, so I'm not unfamiliar with the sound, meaning that I had a bit of an advantage.

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  12. speedicut

    speedicut Country Gent

    Jun 5, 2012
    Alabama
    Sounds great waxhead, thanks!
     
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  13. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    VERY nice looking Strats you have there.
    Lace Sensors are my fav Strat pup :)
     
  14. LivingMyDream

    LivingMyDream Country Gent

    Thanks! It took me a while to figure out how to get the Lace Sensors positioned. At first I was trying to adjust them like standard Strat pups, but at some point it hit me that with the magnetic field of the Lace Sensors being different, I had a much wider latitude to find my sweet spot. I've been very happy with the Sensors ever since.

    Oh, and I guess my attraction to the white pearl pickguard (I put one on an Arctic White Strat, too), helped me when I came into Gretsch's world of bling. ;)
     
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  15. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    Yes and the Lace pups are also one of the only noiseless single coils that retain the Strat quack and character.
    I'm a fan of pearl pick guards too :)
     
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  16. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

    Age:
    53
    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    Boogies tend to colour the basic sound of a guitar quite much. So telling the difference is nt so easy here.
    Btw.: The most coloring pedal is the big muff pi. To my ears there is nearly no differnece between a strat and a lp when playing through that peadal. O.k.: the strat is more noisy...
     
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  17. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    Which Boogies ? - my 2 don't :)
    I used an MI Audio Crunchbox pedal for the solos on this run thru clean channel of an Express 5:50.
     
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  18. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    ? Aren't amps supposed to color the sound? If they didn't wouldn't everyone just use the same amp?
     
  19. Ricochet

    Ricochet Gretschified

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    It's true most amps impart a "tonal hue", but some more so than others.
    It is not the first time I've heard someone state that every guitar sounds the same played over a Mesa Boogie. Great, but sorta same-ish.
     
  20. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

    Age:
    53
    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    You are right, of course. But some amps and overdrive pedals let the original character of a guitar shine through more than others.
     
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