How Often Do YOU Lube?

Discussion in 'Electromatic Gretsch Forum' started by Ian4242, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. Ian4242

    Ian4242 Electromatic

    5
    Mar 8, 2019
    USA
    Got a Gretsch 5420t last week. Couldn't keep it in tune to save my life. Talking five tunings everytime I play past 30 minutes. Very small use of the Bigsby.

    So I googled it up and found this forum. A combination of stretching my strings and lubing up my nut with some graphite seems to have solved the issue, but my question is,

    How often is lubing up your nut neccesary? I generally change strings every 2-3 months will that cut it?
     
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  2. calebaaron666

    calebaaron666 Country Gent

    Aug 15, 2018
    Portland, Maine
    Welcome!
    I use nut lube every time I put new strings on, and I’ll add more later if needed.
     
  3. Ricochet

    Ricochet Gretschified

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    Keep your nuts dry! Never use lube. It attracts dirt and clogs the notches. It shouldn’t be considered anything other than a temporary alleviation of a bad cut nut and or poor setup ie before a gig.
    In a pinch you can use a soft graphite pencil.
     
  4. Jelly Roll Horton

    Jelly Roll Horton Gretschie

    426
    Nov 10, 2017
    Portland, OR
    I use powdered graphite as necessary, which isn’t very often. Maybe once a month, and I practice 2-3 hours daily, typically.
     
  5. radd

    radd Synchromatic

    977
    Dec 27, 2017
    Santa cruz
    Chances are good your nut needs a proper dressing/set up. This is very common on Gretschs and is the primary culprit regarding going out of tune. Two other factors to consider is the need to use a locking string wrap with a bare minimum of wraps, google it. Then of course, the Bigsby responds best to subtle pitch changes rather than dive bombing.

    On my 5420, locking string wrap, dressed nut with lube and a high quality roller bridge made my tuning very stable.

    Good luck
     
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  6. Ian4242

    Ian4242 Electromatic

    5
    Mar 8, 2019
    USA
    I plan to get it set up next time I'm in Lubbock, which is the closest town to me with a Luthier, but it should be fine til then, yeah?
     
  7. Ricochet

    Ricochet Gretschified

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    It's not going to disintegrate on you no. :)

    Maybe it's allready clogged and just needs a good clean? You should be able to do this yourself. If not now would a good time to learn. Nut files are best but in a pinch welder files, or old strings work.
     
  8. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    Never. I use TUSQ-XL nuts.

    A+!
     
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  9. thunder58

    thunder58 I Bleed Orange

    Age:
    60
    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    I use the lube every time I change the strings
     
  10. Bertotti

    Bertotti Country Gent

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    I have never used nut lube, ever. I have however sanded my nuts so the strings have a better angle and smooth them out a little bit using files or sandpaper or old strings with some abrasive powder rubbed in them. Just go slow and watch closely. Youtube has a lot of videos and Stew Mac has some stuff as well as frets.com, on how to do this stuff. Well, worth knowing.
     
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  11. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
    Admin Post
    Never. I lock back my strings, use less than one turn around the capstan on the machine head and never have any problems staying in tune. Multiple wraps cause all sorts of problems.
     
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  12. thunder58

    thunder58 I Bleed Orange

    Age:
    60
    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    As Larry the Cable Guy would say ....... That's some good information right there I tell you
     
  13. wabash slim

    wabash slim Friend of Fred

    Age:
    69
    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    Graphite is a great dry lubricant. Lots of uses, tho it can be a bit messy if too much is used.
     
  14. Ian4242

    Ian4242 Electromatic

    5
    Mar 8, 2019
    USA
    Do you think getting the nut check by a Luthier (I'm kinda of hesitant to try myself) is worthwhile? Or do you think its unlikely that that's the issue?
     
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  15. radd

    radd Synchromatic

    977
    Dec 27, 2017
    Santa cruz
    I think it would be a mistake on a Korean Gretsch to not get the nut worked on by a good luthier. You can’t go wrong, it can only help, it can’t hurt and it does not cost much
     
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  16. budglo

    budglo Electromatic

    40
    Feb 26, 2019
    Ohio
    All my Gibson’s that had tuning problem got fixed by working on the nut. Not one of them were repaired by lubing the nut. It’s usually the nut slots that are suspect. Usually too narrow.
     
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  17. dafreeze

    dafreeze Friend of Fred

    Big Bends Nut Sauce every string change and in between if necess
     
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  18. Butch Ammon

    Butch Ammon Gretschie

    Age:
    58
    238
    Jan 3, 2016
    Richmond, VA
    Lube? Um... No.

    I take a pocket knife and whittle down a #2 pencil. Then I take the teeny tiny pencil lead shavings and sprinkle them all over the nut, ensuring that they get down inside each of the slots. Been doing that for years and years and years with various Strats that I've owned and never had a problem. I started doing it (lightly) to my Gretsch 5122, and combined with a locking string wrap, I don't have any problems with the Bigsby at all.
     
  19. dafreeze

    dafreeze Friend of Fred

    That nut sauce is teflon and silicon, slicker than snot, perfect sized applicator tip. I used to fart with pencil lead. Left me with black nuts. No more.
     
  20. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
    Admin Post
    The jokes I could make out of that comment . . . :)
     
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