Headstock-Heavy Woes

Discussion in 'Electromatic Gretsch Forum' started by windskipper1, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. windskipper1

    windskipper1 Electromatic

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    Jun 28, 2016
    Iselton, CA
    Anyone out there have a solution to balancing out the 5422 Hollow body so you’re not constantly having to push/shift the head and neck up while you’re playing?
     
  2. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    Wide, suede backed strap.
     
  3. capnhiho

    capnhiho Gretschie

    474
    Feb 16, 2013
    California
    This.
     
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  4. slickfaster

    slickfaster Synchromatic

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    Dec 29, 2009
    USA
    Counter balance @ tail end??
    Non slip strap-
     
  5. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

    Age:
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    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    People used to use a string (shoelace type of thing) to attach their strap at the headstock just past the nut. Straps always came with the string back when. It just doesn't look as cool as the way we use it now, tho it worked for the likes of Johnny Cash and others.
     
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  6. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Country Gent

    Mar 6, 2014
    Phoenix, AZ
    Welcome!

    I struggled to keep my highly modded G5122, all because of the neck dive. It was a long hard decision, but life is too short to deal with that. I sold it on. Before that I did a wide suede strap, and that made an equally annoying bumched shirt. Lighter tuners helped a bit, the neck attachment thing mentioned above, and extending out the button with a metal arm all will alleviate or eliminate the problem.
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2020
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  7. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Welcome friend
     
  8. swivel

    swivel Country Gent

    May 13, 2018
    PNW
  9. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

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    Oct 18, 2015
    Germany
    A Bigsby would possibly solve this problem, indeed.
     
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  10. Gregor

    Gregor Gretschie

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    Oct 17, 2018
    New Brunswick, Canada
    That's certainly the way we all did it in "the good ole days" but in my case at least, it was an acoustic guitar. Not sure what the long term concerns would be with the extra weight of electrics especially solid bodies. It seems to me the extra leverage from the head stock to the body might be detrimental to the neck over time...don't know. I realize the OP's is a hollow body but still heavier than an acoustic.
     
  11. swivel

    swivel Country Gent

    May 13, 2018
    PNW
    Or if it has a Bigsby, there's a business opportunity.. make lead Bigby's!
     
  12. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

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    Dec 1, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    This is how I deal with the neck-dive on my double-cut Penguins.
     
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  13. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    Yes : displace the upper strap button from upper horn to neck heel, simply like it is installed on a Gibson ES-335. This will eradicate this imbalance problem It's what I did on my G5622TLH :

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    A+!
     
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  14. jfassett

    jfassett Synchromatic

    580
    Dec 9, 2017
    Tucson
    Did the same on my 5122, problem solved
     
  15. windskipper1

    windskipper1 Electromatic

    5
    Jun 28, 2016
    Iselton, CA
    Yep, tried the wider, grippy strap but with loose-fitting clothes, had same results.
     
  16. windskipper1

    windskipper1 Electromatic

    5
    Jun 28, 2016
    Iselton, CA
    Thanks!
     
  17. windskipper1

    windskipper1 Electromatic

    5
    Jun 28, 2016
    Iselton, CA
    Already has Bigsby
     
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  18. swivel

    swivel Country Gent

    May 13, 2018
    PNW
    This actually should make it worse.... The further toward the headstock you can move the pivot point the less neck heavy it should be. This is why so many basses have that long point upper bout... to improve reach and balance...
     
  19. DaddyDog

    DaddyDog Country Gent

    Sep 18, 2011
    Mississauga, Canada
  20. capnhiho

    capnhiho Gretschie

    474
    Feb 16, 2013
    California
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