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Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by ZackyDog, Jul 8, 2019.
oh, IDK.... even Setzer has a "loud one" in his collection... it happens with hand-wound pickups back in the day...
please standby, apparently the video I'm after is no loner on youtube, so I'll have to upload it...
Well crap.... ok here's the deal:
Young Guitar (Japan) put out a DVD in 2014 of Brian sitting down and playing a large chunk of his collection. Which included several vintage 6120s.
I HAVE the DVD, but I have no idea where it is (Tavo?? You got this?)... but in going thru his several 6120s, one was considerably louder than the rest... he even said "woah! This is a LOUD one!" so there you go...
Sorry I can't provide the video evidence at this time LOL
I always scratched my head at this statement, but I figured if anybody can identify a loud guitar, it’s Pete. The 6120/coily cable/volume pedal/Bandmaster was going to be my copy-the-artist rig of choice, but in my heart of hearts I still prefer his Woodstock/Leeds/Wight/(and RnR Circus?) tone, even though I’ll likely never figure a way to sneak a Hiwatt into the garage. I did get a coily cable.
I also prefer the SG and Hiwatt live sound. Check out Live at Hull. Sounds better than live at Leeds.
Good catch - I forgot about Hull. Picked it up after reading Roger’s book. Roger claims that Leeds was too loud and Hull has better balance. I generally agree - the vocal does sound less strained on Hull (Substitute/Happy Jack/I’m A Boy) but I also like the raucous overplaying on Leeds, particularly during the My Generation medley leading into “Coming Out To Get You”.
Yes it is a theatre and the whole feel is closer. The guitar tone is better, it sounds tighter and the drums are up a bit. I rarely listen to Rog carefully to be truthful... I'm mostly tracking the interaction of the three piece unit when I'm listening.
I saved it somewhere.. sigh. lemme look on vimeo, hopefully I can not run into the bad vids. Its like navigating a ship in shallow water at night. Right now only a preview of the DVD in the mag is on youtube. I actually created a clip but things get pulled down all the time.
Yeah, I thought I had saved it (on my computer), but since I can't FIND it on my computer, that reminded me that I think I bought the DVD on youtube... but I have no idea where I put it LOL
Somehow, Pete gets that exact same sound out of his Strat.
I'm guessing: it may be his hands.
Also Gretsch wasn't totally consistent with pot values. Or maybe they were but I haven't figured out the pattern. Overwhelmingly 500k, IMO. But once in a while I've come across 1M pots. That will result in a louder guitar too.
Yes, Billy Zoom has commented that the early duojets w Dynasonics had 1meg pots.. a brighter, slightly more aggressive zip to the sound. Dynas are already hellah bright, egads!!!