Gretsch Thru Marshall...anyone else?

Discussion in 'Ampage Area' started by pmac11, Sep 13, 2019.

  1. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

    Age:
    55
    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
    I'm loving this DSL15 head I picked up last week. Anyone else running their Gretsch thru a Marshall?

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  2. reckless toboggan

    reckless toboggan Electromatic

    61
    Jul 22, 2019
    Canada
    Yup. DSL 20 head and an Origin 20 Combo. Love the way it sounds through them.
     
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  3. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    Just Malcolm and me.

    I don't play'm much, but the other amps are very much in the Marshall vein. Most seem capable of either the Plexi or that JCM800 thing.
     
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  4. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    Bet it sounds AWSOME !!
     
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  5. G5422T

    G5422T Synchromatic

    706
    May 24, 2012
    usa
    Guess this counts as a "Marshall". A 10 watt Plexi based head from Cave Valley Amps.

    Loving it, and so do my Gretsches. Teles don't count. They sound good through anything. Lol

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  6. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

    Age:
    55
    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
    It really does. The biggest surprise has been the clean channel. Why does no one ever talk about Marshall cleans? They're epic!

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  7. reckless toboggan

    reckless toboggan Electromatic

    61
    Jul 22, 2019
    Canada
    It's true.

    While maybe not "epic", the cleans are detailed and very pretty. Much better than people think. Right up there with some of the mid-level Fenders. And no one talks about Marshall cleans, actually I do and I get ridiculed for it, then people actually hear it and are shocked. Pushing the Tone Shift button in scoops the mids and gets you even closer to Fender cleans.

    On either channel, if you like running drive/OD or distortion pedals, push the tone shift knob in (scoops the mids) as it creates a nice amplifyer foundational EQ for typically mid focussed pedals that seem to be EQ'd to compliment Fender amps.


    Now where did I leave that flame retardant suit...
     
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  8. salvatore

    salvatore Electromatic

    41
    Nov 29, 2017
    Durham, NC
    Back in the day, I ran my ‘66 Tennessean through a 100 watt SLP with a 4x12 cab on each side of the stage.
    It was truly a revelation.
     
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  9. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    We've touched on this before. My theory is people who rely on clean tones generally don't want to be associated with Marshall amps. Also no one has picked up a guitar for the aesthetics. Ever. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

    Age:
    55
    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
    I was wondering if it's the other way...Marshall doesn't want to be associated with players who use clean tones. Contradicts their carefully developed image.

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  11. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    Nope I sold my JCM800 but still listen to Malcolm Young every week playing one of THE best guitar tones in the history of rock :)
     
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  12. Gretschtim1

    Gretschtim1 Country Gent

    Dec 4, 2012
    Dundalk, Md
    I run my Gretsch through my Silver Jubilee. Crunches like AC/DC. Great hard rock power chords.
     
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  13. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    yes agree - Fender and Vox have historically had the big reputation on cleans basically cos that's all they've got. Fender overdrive is ***** imo. They just can't do it and you have to crank a Vox AC to the max with top boost to get any decent overdrive out of it.

    Marshall cleans were always very good imo but they needed a point of difference from Fender and Vox. They had that with the classic Marshall overdrive which developed into great high gain distortion.
     
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  14. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    Haha maybe... Hendrix, SRV and a few others relied heavily on clean tones and made use of Marshalls, at one time or other. What self respecting company would not want to be part of(or lay claim to) that legacy?
     
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  15. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

    Age:
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    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
    All true. But when you think of those two, do you envision their amps or the guitars they played? Lots of Fender vibe there..

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  16. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Gretschie

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    Jun 25, 2017
    Italy (Rome and Genoa)
    I had a Marshall DSL 5C for home playng. I sold it because the sound of my G5422 was really bad with it (quite impossible to find a good clean tone using Blacktops and DSL5). Now I use a Fender Blues Jr and I'm really happy with the sound I've found. I must admit that I've always looked for a good clean tone.
     
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  17. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    I get were you're going. When I envision the player I certainly see the Fender Strats... but when I think of the sound something else is going on. For me the whole row of Marshall stacks imagery started with Hendrix. So maybe a bit of both there with some Fuzz and Wah pedals thrown in for good measure.
    Somehow I associate SRV more with Fender amps(and a TS pedal) as most probably would. In reality he always mixed his Fender sound with something else(Plexi, Dumble, Soldano proto) plus almost every amp he used was modded out the yinyang.
     
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  18. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

    Age:
    53
    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    I am a Marshall player since my early teens. I still play vintage Marshalls or direct relatives to this day exclusively. I cannot comment on the newer stuff from Marshall, though.
    The combination classic Marshall/Gretsch is made in heaven (for my personal tone-and feel-preferences).
    I owned a lot of different fine amps but always came back to my Marshalls. I am so biased to them that I find it difficult to adjust to other guitar-amp-constructions.
    (I assume that people who are accustomed to Vox- or Fender-type amps for many years would feel the same about their brand/model.)
     
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  19. Sid Nitzerglobin

    Sid Nitzerglobin Country Gent

    Jun 8, 2015
    fROMOHIO
    Too many Marshalls, too many Gretschs & they all sound great together. Especially the "cleans"
     
  20. reckless toboggan

    reckless toboggan Electromatic

    61
    Jul 22, 2019
    Canada
    The issue here is your Marshall DSL5. Those are terrible, IMHO. Small, boxy, sandy, fizzy, with no balls. There are a lot of guitars that sound like crap through those amps. The only thing I've heard that did sound okay through a DSL5 was a Les Paul, and even then, the comparison of that to a 20 watt amp with good speakers was night and day. Bottom line is Marshall didn't do a good job with the DSL5 watt, and I agree with you that a Fender Blues Jr or some such is a much better sounding amp in comparison.

    Running through a 20 watt DSL or Origin or Studio Vintage or Studio Classic with a good quality 10" or 12" speaker really helps.

    tl;dr the DSL5 is a horrible example of a Marshall tube amp and the 10" Ten-30 speaker in that combo is terrible.
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2019
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