Gretsch or Gibson? Duo Jet vs. Les Paul

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by drmilktruck, Nov 30, 2018.

  1. BuddieGreen

    BuddieGreen Gretschie

    287
    Sep 3, 2018
    indiana usa
    iv had probably a dozen pauls over the yrs and the fact i dont have one now says it all. i do have a vintage SG that i love. never had a jet, altho iv got my eye on a nice 80s silver sparkle if things work out. my problem with a LP is it just seems like a whole lotta money for the name and not the guitar its self. had a old ESP eclipse, black with gold and bigsby, that beat the hell out of the pauls. kinda sorry i got rid of it
     
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  2. mschafft

    mschafft Gretschie

    405
    Jan 19, 2017
    Switzerland
    Nice matching strap
     
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  3. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    I'm a sucker for matching tweed straps. This one is a levy's leather and I have a dark green one by Fender on my Anni Jr.
     
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  4. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    I've owned both guitars - for me the Jet is superior for 3 reasons.

    - Jet is much lighter & comfy to play and gig with.
    LPs are simply too heavy for me.

    - Jet is more versatile.

    - Jet has better clean tones.

    The video, being a Youtube type, was of course inconclusive on tone. Both guitars sounded almost identical but the maker missed my first 2 issues.

    He also incorrectly stated the construction of the 2 guitars is very similar. They are not.
    Jet is a semi hollow body and LP is solid.
    This difference in part is responsible for the tone differences which his video did not pick up.
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2018
  5. ponca

    ponca Gretschie

    270
    Nov 27, 2017
    Pennsylvania
    Before I watched that video I already knew that I preferred the Jet. After I watched it I was like, do people just not know about the Jet or what? Cleans are better which is to be expected, and the hard rock tones basically sound like the LP but with a little more definition.
     
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  6. GreTschocaster

    GreTschocaster Gretschie

    Age:
    65
    351
    Feb 11, 2013
    Canada
    I have to admit I liked my Les Paul Traditional, sounded great, played great and nice fat neck. Only problem was weight. I replaced it with 2 Guild Bluesbirds, one has humbuckers and the other P90's. The Guilds are much lighter as they are chambered (Guilds are between the 6130 and the Les Paul in the photo) 20180112_214129.jpg
     
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  7. O Riley

    O Riley Gretschie

    387
    Jun 2, 2018
    Sunny California
    I'll disagree with a couple of things in the viddy. But it was a very good demonstration. As for Gibson having a bad reputation for flaws, I own a 2001 std. and a killer washed cherry 58 reissue.

    Both are superb. Although I did look long and hard for everything I wanted in one. Tone, weight, color. And of course price.

    I really have to admit, the Gretsch can hang. Danged if I didn't start thinking...maybe I could sell one of my Pauls to afford a new guitar?

    Naa..way to much work. I'll stay a Gibson guy for a solid body.
    Besides, I'm still enjoying my forever love affair with my Falcon. :cool:
     
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  8. peterjh85

    peterjh85 Electromatic

    22
    Dec 16, 2017
    Pacific Northwest
    Throw some TV Jones powertrons in a Jet and you've got as much meat on the bones as a Les Paul for sure!
     
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  9. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Country Gent

    May 14, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    I have a Guild Bluesbird. Scratches the Lester itch nicely.
    It sort of sits between the SG and LP sonically because the body is thinner than a Lester and chambered, so I can tweak my mids to get one sound or the other. So if I had to make a choice between a Lester and a Jet, I'll go Jet for the cool factor.
     
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  10. wilblee

    wilblee Synchromatic

    934
    May 23, 2013
    TX Hill Country
    I have owned 3 Les Pauls. They’re long gone. I have a Jet. My wife can sell it after my funeral.

    Actually PRS and, to a lesser extent, Larrivée killed the LP for me. The PRS SC250 and the Larrivée RS-4 were both way more playable and sounded better than any of my Les Pauls. Then the mighty PRS DGT nailed the coffin shut, dropped it in a deep hole, and poured concrete over it.

    A short time later, thoroughly enamoured with my Duffy Falcon, I started looking for another Proline Gretsch. I settled on a 6121-FTW, even though it was "wrong" for me. The 24.6" scale was way too short for me. The upper fret access looked iffy. The control layout was yet another new one (My last three guitars (DGT, Falcon, and the Jet) all had control layouts unlike anything I was used to and unlike each other). That cowboy kitsch, though; I had to have it. So I found one here, bought it, got it set up, and gave it a shot. Turns out the scale wasn’t too short, the upper fret access was just fine and the sound with the TV Jones Classics was lovely. And that kitsch!

    It’s barely missed a gig since.

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  11. Sunshine

    Sunshine Synchromatic

    616
    Jun 28, 2008
    Espoo, Finland
    I can't compare my Gibson and Gretsch guitars. I like them both...
     
  12. DougCraft

    DougCraft Gretschie

    158
    Apr 24, 2018
    Northern Colorado
    Different beasts. I think Filter'Trons are more versatile - defined here as having great clean and overdriven tones. Les Pauls suck for clean sounds unless you install a series-parallel option - but they are glorious at the overdriven high gain stuff. I have both and enjoy both, but the Gretsches are more likely to go on a gig where I play a variety of sounds.
     
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  13. RocknRollShakeUp

    RocknRollShakeUp Synchromatic

    563
    Jun 20, 2017
    USA
    kind of a silly comparison, they are different tools for different applications
     
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  14. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    Sometimes people only want to buy one tool and must choose, for those, it's not silly. I would argue most people don't buy 2 guitars at the same time, although this forum may be an exception. Personally, I tend to play one guitar exclusively, even though I have a few, and I don't bring more than one guitar out for jams as I suspect many others do, so people make this kind of silly comparison and choice every day.
     
  15. Chmason85

    Chmason85 Gretschie

    280
    May 1, 2018
    Philadelphia
    This is how I am, I dont have the desire to have a collection. Id rather have something that covers all the grounds for me in one guitar vs having a bunch. Hence, a dyna jet being my main guitar. I only have one other and its a strat I built.
     
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  16. Charlie westside

    Charlie westside Synchromatic

    843
    Jul 27, 2018
    Sylmar Califirnia
    You have a fine appreciation for different guitars. I have never heard anyone address the LP topic as honestly and and sensibly as you. I came very close to purchasing an Eppi LP Plus Top pro. I liked it and thought it really sounded nice but didn't want to settle for a copy of the original. I couldn't see myself paying the outrageous money for the Gib LP. I didn't pull the trigger and picked up my G5230T instead. I really enjoy the Gretsch. Maybe there's a LP. in my future someday. Until then, It's the Strat, the Charvel, and the Gretsch:)
     
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  17. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

    Age:
    71
    Dec 1, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    In my playing days I could only barely afford one guitar and an amp. (you may notice I have slightly overcompensated in my old age!). As the music of the times changed I had to swap or turnover guitars: Epi Casino for Beatles, Telecaster for soul and Booker T backing band tracks, Stratocaster for Hendrix songs and Les Paul for Led Zeppelin. I would have loved to keep some of those, but just keeping food on the table and repairing the constant band van breakdowns didn't allow for that!
     
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  18. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    I think Jet.

    But it's me, OK ? :D

    A+!
     
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  19. somebodyelseuk

    somebodyelseuk Country Gent

    Jan 22, 2013
    Birmingham, UK
    They're a similar shape... end of comparison.
    It's like comparing a fire engine with a cheese sandwich.
    What do I think?
    I've seen quite a few of this guy's videos. I think he's a d*ckhead.
     
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