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Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by swivel, Sep 15, 2019.
Is there a chart or list anywhere? Hollow/Semi
I haven't seen a chart or a list, but generally speaking, the hollows and semi-hollows have a 16" lower bout. Falcons are 17", Junior Falcons are 16", and the other Juniors are 13.5" to 14". As for depth: hollows are 2.75", Player's Edition hollows are 2.25", 5422s are 2.25", and semi-hollows are 1.75".
There are some exceptions. Did you have a particular model in mind?
I was just looking this up at Gretsch. What is the widest double cut Gretsch makes ? 1.75 ..?
Thanks that helps. I've decided a 17" is too much for me. Dont want too thick either, but hollow is fine, Semi probably fine. 2.25 may be just right. What about Streamliners in hollow? Is a 5420 same as a 5422 but single cut?
So in a perfect world maybe 16" x 2.25/1.75 Hollow or semi. Next thing is necks though! I like not too thin.
The deepest double-cut Gretsch is the 5422, which is 2.25" deep. The proline Country Gent is 2" deep, and the double-cut 2622 Streamliner is a 1.75"-deep semi-hollow.
The 5420 is 16" x 2.75". It's the Electromatic version of the 6120.
If you're looking for a 16 x 2.25, your choices are a 5422 or a Player's Edition proline hollow body. (Aside from the Falcon Player's Edition, which is 17 x 2.25.)
For a 16 x 1.75, you can choose any Center Block (semi-hollow) model aside from the Juniors.
Where would a G6620T Nashville center block DC fall in at? 2" ?
Sorry I didnt see post 1.75
Wouldn't a chart be fantastic! I'll bet it would get heavy use far and wide by Gretsch guitar shoppers.
Some good info there, section2. Thank you.
It really surprises me that Gretsch never (or almost never) states the body sizes in their model descriptions. Makes it so hard for people, especially those new to Gretsch, to figure out what's what.
I'm not a small person (6'1"), but tend to find the hollow-body or semi-hollow body at 15" x 1.75" to 2" deep about perfect. Gretsch and Gibson skip over 15", going from 14"/13.75" to 16".
That said, I find the Gretsch Players Edition hollow at 16" x 2.25" to be plenty ample, but not too large. I can certainly play the larger guitars, but for preference like them a little smaller.
The Gretsch Jr. size (14" x 1.75") is quite nimble and comfortable - that's about the size of Gibson's ES-339, a little larger than a Les Paul, smaller than an ES-335.
The semi-hollow G5622 with center block at 16" x 1.75" is pretty comfortable.
I just wish Gretsch would make a 15" x 1.75" model (as if they don't offer enough models right now!) - that would be a sweet size! (See D'Angelico for that.). Surprisingly, just 1" makes a noticeable difference in bout width. And 1/2" makes a noticeable difference in body depth.
I have a D'Angelico Excel SS made in So. Korea that is hollow body with 15" bout and 1.75" deep... it's not too small, not too big - JUST right, in my view. And very ample, though not huge, neck. Those are really awesome guitars - they just need modded to Gretsch/TVJ pickups.
ES-339 13.75" x 1.75" and D'Angelico Excel-SS 15" x 1.75"
For reference, here's the 6119T Players Edition (16" x 2.25") next to the ES-339 (13.75" x 1.75")
You've got pickup considerations to make as well!
Hope this helps some.
Wouldn't a chart be fantastic! I'll bet it would get heavy use far and wide by Gretsch guitar shoppers. -- DHart
There WAS a complete chart of ALL details (EXCEPT body dimensions) for ALL models in the back of the 2006 catalog -- pages 26-27. I never understood why body dimensions were not included. Otherwise, it was an incredible reference that got a LOT of use.
Unfortunately, that was the last chart I've seen. Obviously it is out of date in terms of current models..... I was hoping to see a new complete table in the 2019 catalog, but......
Yes! 15" would be a happy medium for sure.
I do believe the G3900 Synchromatic Jr is 15 x 3". (I've seen them listed as 15" and 15.25". I've never actually measured mine.) It's a very comfortable size. It's a shame that they stopped making them when Fender took over. If Gretsch offered a 5420 Jr, I'd jump on it in a heartbeat.
Oh, I so agree... a 5420 Jr. would be awesome, 14" bout, perhaps 1.75" deep, HOLLOW body! I'd buy one for sure.
If it were me, I'd go with a deeper body for a fully hollow 5420 Jr. The 1.75" depth is great for semi-hollows—I love my 16 x 1.75 Center Block 5620T—but I think hollow bodies sound best when they're deeper. If anyone from Gretsch is keeping an eye on the boards, let me put in my vote for a hollow 14 x 2.75" 5420T Jr! (Preferably in silver sparkle or Midnight Sapphire!)
I would go for a compromise! I'll put my vote in for a full hollow 14" bout with 2.25" depth.
Joe Carducci.... are you LISTENING?
Thinking further about what I'm actually trying to solve in this search, I think staying with the 1.75 to 2" depth is a good thing. Maybe 2.25 Ease of playing etc is what I need at my age. If I play a big box or thick box for 3 hours I get clumsy as hell the second half!
I can say that G5422 hollowbody is a super cool, super ease, super light guitar.