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Discussion in 'Fred's Barcalounge' started by drmilktruck, Feb 4, 2019.
eek...that's a charged description. I think the verdict is out on that.
Glad to see Sister Rosetta Tharpe getting some credit.
Indeed. What could be an ode to America’s culture being different folks sharing their own little quirks and flavors to form new quirks and flavors turns into a bunch of bullmess by sexual faux intellectuals who moved from Youngstown to williamsburg. These type of people are the worst.
Not for nothing, but I was every bit of dumb at 21 as I was at 17. I’m only slightly less dumb at age 30.
I don’t half wonder if the reason this myth persists or maybe even started in the first place is because critics decades ago figured out that Jimmy Page et al were ripping off Howlin’ Wolf. Who, by the way, none of them would have even heard of had it not been for Page, but that’s another matter.
Then they all eagerly rushed to their typewriters to tell the world that white people only had rock ‘n’ roll because they ripped off black people. They hadn’t heard of western swing or any of that either, and probably knew just about enough about the history of American music to stuff up an ant’s arse. I dunno, just riffing, but still…Anyway if a critic is very young, we can’t expect too much I guess, but it would be nice if they stuck to topics they actually understood, like maybe “1000 new ways to use autotune.”
Here's another myth... "it pays"
Or even the Yardbirds
Sadly, I can't read this article over here. But it seems there isn't much to know in it...
I agree with a lot of this, but I must say that the original Rocket 88 recorded for sun records is far superior and was much more groundbreaking. The legend is that Ike’s amp fell over on the truck. It busted and that’s how distortion was invented.
Wasn't that the story with Paul Burlison's amp on Train Kept a Rollin supposedly too?
You're in luck. There's a 40,000 page thread on this very site debating that.
I’m sure. But Ike recorded Rockett 88 first.
I heard that Robert Smith's amp fell off a truck and broke in half, and that's how chorus was invented.
Eh, it’s a good r&b song, but I prefer the Danny Cedrone guitar work on the Saddlemen version
Nah, distortion was invented when Keith Richards bought a Gibson Maestro Fuzz Tone & played it on 'Satisfaction'.
I forgot about Clapton with them. I guess I didn't do my research. DOH!
I came very close to buying this Rocket 88 last spring. I could afford the car, but I couldn’t afford the divorce.
Elvis is still alive. Lives on a pig farm outside of Jackson, Mississippi.
I think it's a myth that rock music derived from the blues, of course a lot of it does but there is nothing blues about the way i play. i was influenced by indian music, for some reason i was drawn to it? later in life i found out my grandmother was a full blooded romany gypsy, not the scumbags who beg for change these days but a true nomadic gypsy! and of course they descend from india and are a very musical race. this is why i think i have a more sitar style of playing guitar and my tuning's are always drone like. i am also a massive fan of richard wagner and classical in general and we all know that came before the blues!
She obviously has a bit of an agenda. The Washington Post provided a forum for her to lay out her own myths in an attempt to negate the older ones.
Who doesn’t write about Rock n’ Roll history without a stance or agenda? Even with the most earnest attempt to be objective, one still will make claims that can be argued and denied by countless nerds.
Like all of us here. We all claim to know the TRUTH and history, but not all of us are going to agree on many concrete facts because we still have our own ideas and agendas based on our experiences.
For example, I, for one, DO believe Rock n’ Roll comes from black music. How could it not? Elvis sang blues songs and it was Rock n’ Roll. Bill Hailey covered RnB songs. Rockabilly is RnB and hillbilly mixed. Etc etc. Doesn’t really make a difference, but it is history.
So many will disagree, but that’s okay if they wanna be wrong.
The music you play may not have a direct connection to the blues but rock n roll as a genre certainly does, made explicit many times, especially during the early 60s British blues boom which produced The Rolling Stones, Clapton and his various bands, Jimmy Page and all those who,followed. Jimi Hendrix was an r & b guitarist early in career. The list goes on and on.