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Electromatic Hollowbodies and feedback. One more time!

Discussion in 'Electromatic Gretsch Forum' started by Rusty Silver, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. NickGretsch

    NickGretsch Synchromatic

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    Aug 30, 2011
    Cornwall, England
    I've found my G5420T TVJ really well tempered at gigs. We're a reasonably loud band and ok I only tend to use pedals for soloing but feedback hasn't been a big problem. Maybe it's down to the pedals used, for instance I have no problems with my Boss OD3 but run into issues when using the Electro Harmonix Little Big Muff. Finding a 'safe' position in relation to your amp is also a factor.

    Importantly, when I do want to induce feedback I've found it quite usable and controllable, unlike my Epi IBJL Casino which screams at you the slightest opportunity but that really is a hollow body. I've noticed inside the G5420 there is a strip of wood that runs underneath the pickups from front to back, with a single support post underneath the bridge. Maybe this is what's helping.
     
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  2. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Country Gent

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    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    I don`t think so. But there usually is a centerblock-offering that will do the trick.
     
  3. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Electromatic

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    Well, thanks to everybody for precious informations... obviously now I'm more confuse than yesterday!

    ;)

    but it's a sweet indecision...
     
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  4. dlew919

    dlew919 Gretschie

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    Jul 18, 2016
    Sydney, Australia
    I have a 5420t. I overdrive it, stick it through envelope filters, delays, choruses, distortion. No feedback unless I want it. Keep the strings you don't want playing still and watch where you stand.


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  5. zebulon

    zebulon Gretschie

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    Aug 8, 2017
    oxford
    this guy gets it.
     
  6. houndman55

    houndman55 Synchromatic

    662
    Feb 8, 2014
    Sweden
    Hello dear friend ,

    1. I believe that with moderate distortion the say a G5120 should do fine as long as you don't overcrank it. Think of a Epi Casino, both the beatles and the rolling stones used it and added some of the flavour to their style of music.
    2. No idea honestly.
    3. Not in my opinion but take your own pick.

    Greetings from Sweden.

    Houndman55 (Niklas)
     
  7. Ebidis

    Ebidis Gretschie

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    Jul 30, 2017
    Alabama
    I recently used my 5420 at band practice, playing loud with medium to low gain overdrive, and had no feedback issues at all.

    Just my 2¢
     
  8. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Electromatic

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    Jun 25, 2017
    Italy (Rome and Genoa)
    I'm waiting to see the light. :)

    In the meantime, go on with my Rancher Jumbo.
     
  9. Joey L

    Joey L Gretschie

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    Jun 24, 2016
    White Plains, NY
    I use these on two hollow bodies and they work great. No feedback or dramatic or noticeable change.
     
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  10. T simmons

    T simmons Friend of Fred

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    Jun 5, 2013
    California
    I have feedback with my new LP.
     
  11. Whiteomatic

    Whiteomatic Gretschie

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    Nov 24, 2016
    Arizona
  12. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Electromatic

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    Please guys, i need another information: are the bridges of G5420 and G5422 (hollow) and 5622 (semi hollow) the same kind? First is Adjusto-Matic with Secured Rosewood Base and second is Anchored Adjustomatic.
     
  13. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Electromatic

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    P.s. i'm talkin about the G5622 new 2017 model (f holes) ...
     
  14. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    Hi Rusty Silver,

    I got this :

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    At the end of July, I was on several stages. I played some afro-cuban style and notably Soul Sacrifice from Santana, Misirlou in a kind of Pulp Fiction variant, Dirty Boogie from Setzer, etc... OK.

    I used my Gretsch G6119LH at full open volume, on a Fender Champion 100 2x12" 100W at max clean volume (on Jazz setting, T=6, M=5, B=5, Rev=4), using a RAT 1981 Rev. B distortion clone (distortion at 11:00 / tone full cut treble / output volume at 14:00) and, when needed, a VOX V846HW wah in front of the RAT.

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    I was afraid to front uncontrollable feedback, but some previous concerts proved me that the G6119LH was able to work as expected and I could rely on it : no problem of unwanted, unmanageable feedback.

    For sure, that kind of guitar (G6119, G5420 = hollowbodies) are in trouble to handle "Modern Hi-Gain" styles : I experienced it. So if you are in that kind of music and play loud with high gain, I wouldn't recommend you a hollowbody, but rather a center-block (5622, 5620...).

    But as I read that you play "bluesy rocknroll in early Stones style, a lot of Chuck Berry and similar...", you won't have any problem of uncontrollable feedback (supposing you're not seated on your amp, but at 2-3m distance, OK ?).

    So yes, you can go for a G5420T, or any other Gretsch model of that kind. The G5420 are great guitars, many of us can confirm... And I (a bit forced) stupidly sold mine :oops: !

    Ciao !

    A+!
     
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  15. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Electromatic

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    Thank you for your precious report!
    Could you tell me something about my question about the bridges of the guitars? Are the same kind? Do they both work fine?
     
  16. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Electromatic

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    Sorry if i put a new question here, could you tell me about any info ? opinion about bridges of these guitars ... (Any difference between g5420 and 5622 bridge)

    Thanks!
     
  17. Trash Kidd

    Trash Kidd Country Gent

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    51
    Dec 14, 2015
    London U.K.
    Both Gretsch adjsto matic bridges. The 5420 has a rosewood base the 5622 doesn't. Both secured.
    A lot of people moan about these stock bridges saying they rattle etc.
    I have two 5420s & a 5622 & all mine are fine no problems at all & rattle free!
     
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  18. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Electromatic

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    Ok, thank you!
     
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  19. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    Yes, the Adjusto-Matic bridges of the Electromatic are corrects, no particular issue...

    I just put some Gretsch (modified radius) RBB on my G6119 and G5420 because of my abusive trem use and I wanted That Great Gretsch Look too. On my G5622, I put a roller bridge for the same reason.

    A+!
     
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  20. wildeman

    wildeman Friend of Fred

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    The bridge is easy to change if you get a rattler. I like Comptons over the stock ones, relatively cheap mod.