Did you know Notre Dame de Paris ?

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  1. wabash slim

    wabash slim Friend of Fred

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    I was there over 50 years ago when stationed in Europe. My daughter heard from a friend who had been there just this morning to hear the choir. The loss to Paris, and the world, is immeasurable. 850 years of history gone up in smoke is just heartbreaking. The only positive thing is that there have been no reported deaths.
     
  2. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    True. A disaster and a miracle, if I can say so...

    A+!
     
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  3. JeffreyLeePierre

    JeffreyLeePierre Gretschie

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    You're welcome ;)
     
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  4. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

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    Terrible loss of history. I was there last June, I wish I had spent more time and taken some pics.
     
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  5. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Sorry Vista
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    It’s quite a loss. It just occurred to me that places such as this are simply not being built anymore. It’s possible that they will rebuild, but a building built of such materials, of such size and splendor is unlikely to ever be built again.
     
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  6. new6659

    new6659 Gretschie

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    Dec 10, 2018
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    A tragedy for mankind.
     
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  7. guto

    guto Gretschie

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    Ive been there....it is a shame such treasure got burnt like that...
     
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  8. wabash slim

    wabash slim Friend of Fred

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    There's only one being built at present that I know of---the Sagrada Familia (Holy Family) in Barcelona. Our own National Cathedral in Wash. DC is still in process of being finished as well. Still, new construction of such a large church is extremely rare, mostly due to the huge expense.
     
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  9. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Sorry Vista
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    I think we, as a civilization, are no longer interested in building such exquisite works of art. I don’t want to trigger a theological discussion here; I am simply dealing with this as the loss of a historic treasure. There are all sorts of things which can be said, but all I will say is that I wish the people of France the best and send my sympathies for their loss.

    Please gents, no religion. We can’t solve issues of that sort here.
     
  10. blueruins

    blueruins Country Gent

    May 28, 2013
    Savannah, GA
    I expect a huge outpouring of love and support for France and her efforts to rebuild. This will be a tragic chapter that has a happy ending.
     
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  11. calebaaron666

    calebaaron666 Country Gent

    Aug 15, 2018
    Portland, Maine
    The Notre Dame is a prime example of a time when civilization built things to last generations; to stand for centuries.
    Nowadays, nothing is built to last the ages. Things are only built or created to please whomever is alive at the moment.
    All facets of culture suffer from a short attention span.

    This is a tragic loss for France, humanity, history, and civilization, regardless of religion.
     
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  12. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    I did go inside and climbed to the upstairs viewing room, but I had a bad hip at that time so did not go all the way up to the top (in the spire?). I also hate heights.
     
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  13. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
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    I think you put into words almost exactly what I was feeling. Malls are huge, complex, buildings, but they fall to the wrecker’s ball as soon as they have outlived their usefulness. Norte Dame was not about practicality or cost effectiveness, it was a lasting monument, plain and simple. Whether the rebuild or not remains to be seen and I will not proffer so much as the hint of an opinion as to whether it should be rebuilt or not. However, the resolve to create something lasting and which has meaning for many years to come; that is what I feel has been lost.
     
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  14. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Sorry Vista
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    In reply to BlueRuins:

    I sincerely hope that we are on the cusp of greater things to come. I’m a big fan of the human race and believe that we can do amazing things, if only we let ourself. This isn’t to claim that we can solve all of the problems and create utopia, but the fact that places like Notre Dame were created in the first place speaks well of our ability to build amazing structures.
     
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  15. wabash slim

    wabash slim Friend of Fred

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    I don't think I was being religious. I appreciate the architecture, and the sheer commitment of thousands of people that spent centuries building and paying for such an edifice. You're right that we don't build anything to last like that anymore, for the most part. The Coliseum in Rome is 2000 years old, and if it hadn't been scavenged for stone for 1500 years, it'd be intact as well. Stadia built thirty years ago are being demolished and replaced. When I lived in Europe, I roomed in a 400 year old house. Houses here will never last that long. We could build them better, but couldn't afford them. We can decipher 4000 year old hieroglyphs that were carved in stone. How long will we be able to access the digital information on a chip? We can't access 30 year old computer info anymore. I can reprint a 100 year old photo negative, play a 100 year old record, and read a 500 year old book. How long will our present media be accessible?

    Only stone lasts, and even that won't last forever.
     
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  16. Ricochet

    Ricochet Gretschified

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    The fire is contained, half the building is safed.
    Macron makes an appeal to the public. French billionaire donates €100.000.000 to rebuild the cathedral. As you do.
     
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  17. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    Pictures from Le Monde / Reuters of the remains of ND de Paris this morning :

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    I don't know how looks the interior now, but I imagine that it is a disastrous havoc... Anyway, we already have enough problems in France, we did not need to add this casualty, for sure ! It will take dozen of years to rebuilt, at an astronomic cost due to historic matters, I guess.

    A+!
     
  18. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
  19. Robbie

    Robbie Country Gent

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    Jun 17, 2013
    Sarnia Ontario Canada
  20. larryb

    larryb Gretschified

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    Oct 29, 2012
    Greenville, SC
    Agreed!!:(:(:(
     
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