Analog Delay BBD Chip Challenge!

Discussion in 'Pedal Pushers Forum' started by MatchlessMan, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. MatchlessMan

    MatchlessMan Country Gent

    Nov 29, 2010
    Swindon UK
    I am the proud owner (and user!) of no fewer than six (6) analog delay pedals, as pictured.

    They are:

    Maxon AD999 (8x Maxon MC4107D chips)
    MXR Carbon Copy (2x 3208 chips AFAIK)
    Dod FX96 Echo FX (Panasonic MN3005 chip)
    Behringer VD400 Vintage Delay (CoolAudio V3205 chip)
    Way Huge Aqua Puss MkII (CoolAudio V3205 chip)
    Frontline Delay (Panasonic MN3205 chip)

    Can anyone beat this? Just so that everyone's clear on the rules, I am talking true analog (bucket brigade) stomp-boxes, not rack units or tape.

    If your list includes a pedal that I know or believe is really digital, I will throw down the chip challenge and ask you to identify the BBD chip inside your pedal.

    I can tell you now that PT2395 and PT2399 are both digital chips (used by Danelectro and Wampler, among others) - you have been warned!

    Let the games BEGIN BEGIN BEGIN begin...
     

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  2. Manic

    Manic Country Gent

    Dec 5, 2009
    The Behringer Vintage Delay really is an honest-to-goodness analog delay? Cool.
     
  3. MatchlessMan

    MatchlessMan Country Gent

    Nov 29, 2010
    Swindon UK
    Yes, it's a clone of the Boss DM2, but with a reissue chip and surface mount components. The case is plastic but pretty tough. For the price it's unbeatable! I keep it in my gig bag so whenever I go to a jam I have a delay pedal with me.
     
  4. TV the Wired Turtle

    TV the Wired Turtle Gretschified

    Jul 25, 2009
    so cal
    I dont know what your point is other than you want to find somebody with 7 delay pedals that are analog?
     
  5. MatchlessMan

    MatchlessMan Country Gent

    Nov 29, 2010
    Swindon UK
    Exactly! Am I alone in this worrying obsession? Are there others who believe they have overdone it with their analog delay purchases, only for me to burst their bubble with arcane knowledge of the digital chip hidden within? Perhaps someone has 8 or 9 or 29 analog delays?

    Or maybe I just want fellow Gretschies to be impressed!
     
  6. Manic

    Manic Country Gent

    Dec 5, 2009
    To be honest, I don't care about the analog vs. digital debate. If the pedal sounds good, it is good. I think it is an argument that needs to die a horrible and quick death so we can get back to making music.
     
  7. nickyboy

    nickyboy Synchromatic

    784
    Jan 10, 2011
    South Wales, UK
    This is a cool thread.
    Especially since i sold my boss dd5 years ago..
    All i have is a wobbly sounding wem copycat.

    So..out of the 6 pedals - which one do you prefer?
     
  8. MatchlessMan

    MatchlessMan Country Gent

    Nov 29, 2010
    Swindon UK
    I absolutely agree. I had a cheap Dano digital delay pedal that sounded great, and it had a second footswitch to select between long and short settings. Trouble was, it was a little too fiddly for my size 11s!

    What I do object to is certain manufacturers calling pedals analog when they aint. I'm hoping to flush out a few here!

    That depends...

    For awesome loveliness and clarity, the Maxon AD999;
    For sheer flexibility and pedalboard compactness, the MXR Carbon Copy.
     
  9. Lizardkinged

    Lizardkinged Friend of Fred

    Age:
    33
    Oct 5, 2009
    Michigan
    Yeah, I'm like that about true bypass also.

    Unfortunately even the carbon copy isn't a TRUE analog delay....
     
  10. vjf1968

    vjf1968 Former Member

    560
    Jun 3, 2008
    Philadelphia
    I like BBD chips with salsa or with a tangy onion dip.
     
  11. MatchlessMan

    MatchlessMan Country Gent

    Nov 29, 2010
    Swindon UK
    Surely you jest... I'd be interested to know what isn't analog about the CC - as far as I can tell from my online research, it uses the BL3208 chips, a 2048-stage Bucket Brigade delay line. Pray do tell ;)

    Here's a gut-shot I took from another forum - plenty of SMDs but a 3208 at the heart of it:
     

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  12. razor

    razor Synchromatic

    Age:
    61
    531
    Sep 26, 2009
    Hamilton, Ont, Canada

    How about fish and BBD chips!!!
     
  13. mikante

    mikante Country Gent

    Age:
    40
    Aug 11, 2009
    italy
    I'm about to buy a memory toy, that would be my first pseudo analog delay pedal...
    [​IMG]
     
  14. ToneJunkie

    ToneJunkie Gretschie

    223
    Dec 12, 2010
    Wisconsin
    I think I could win with the fewest, all I have is an EHX Memory Toy, which does the slapback thing pretty awesome for me. Makes me happy, what more do I need, right? (Just don't ask what else I've purchased in the last six months....:D)

    EDIT: And Mikante wins with the largest picture of an analog delay pedal.
     
  15. mikante

    mikante Country Gent

    Age:
    40
    Aug 11, 2009
    italy
    onion is just nasty!
     
  16. MatchlessMan

    MatchlessMan Country Gent

    Nov 29, 2010
    Swindon UK
    Nope, the Memory Toy is analog :)
     
  17. i have 5 delays currently, only 3 of which are ALL analog BBD... but i have one of the coolest delays ever made, (and now out of production)... THE MALEKKO ECHO 600 BRIGHT!!! AND PRODUCTION SERIAL #666 TO BOOT!!!
    [​IMG]
     
  18. mikante

    mikante Country Gent

    Age:
    40
    Aug 11, 2009
    italy
    analog analog?
     
  19. Lizardkinged

    Lizardkinged Friend of Fred

    Age:
    33
    Oct 5, 2009
    Michigan
    I could have sworn I heard someplace that its not.

    I always felt it was too harsh... dont get me wrong. Its a great pedal, but not always transparent enough for what I wanna do.
     
  20. sroux

    sroux Country Gent

    Age:
    50
    Oct 6, 2008
    Baton Rouge Louisiana
    I only have 2...
    A Carbon Copy, and an Antech Echoluxe.
    Not sure what chip the Echoluxe is, but it's definitely analog...



     
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