Amp 20w-30w for great clean tones

Discussion in 'Ampage Area' started by Rusty Silver, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Gretschie

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    Hi guys, I'm searching for a new amp for playng in small clubs, pubs (playng with bassist and drummer) ...

    after long reflections :), the amp I need must have:

    Watts: at least 20w-30w
    Weight: no more than 20 kg (or 45 lbs)
    Sound: super clean tone (I don't really need ovedrive, I have a good peadalboard)

    Thanks for your precious opinions and suggestions...
     
  2. Stencil

    Stencil Gretschie

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    Hiya Rusty, three questions:
    1. did you have a budget in mind?
    2. are you religious about using tubes?
    3. are you happy buying used equipment?
    If you can answer these questions, it will certainly help us narrow down the options.
    Cheers,
     
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  3. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Gretschie

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    :)

    1. It will be my gig amp, so I can afford a medium price (not necessarly cheap, not luxury level)
    2. Yes I am.
    3. It depends by what I can find near my town, so generally I'm happier buyn' new equipment.

    Thanks!
     
  4. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

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    You might look into a Winfield Elizabeth. It can be equipped with either 6V6 or 6L6 power tubes, weight about 35 pounds and has the clean Fender sound, plus the Bright switch which means you can achieve the super bright sound, like a Deluxe Reverb or a somewhat less bright sound.
     
  5. stiv

    stiv Synchromatic

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    Hey fella, If you want to contact me through PM, I'm from Firenze and I may have the perfect thing for you. The Cleanest of the Cleans with a classy reverb. It's called Lombardi LC4 and it's on sale. :)
     
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  6. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

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    I suspect that a potent tube-amp incl. speaker will be heavier than you like.
    20 to 30 watts are not that much if your main goal is a very clean sound.
     
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  7. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Gretschie

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    Really Super cool!! but impossible to find (and to try) in Italy
     
  8. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

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    You’d have to buy it directly from him. I believe he ships pretty much worldwide.
     
  9. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Gretschie

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    Bellissimo!!! Great amp! But a bit too heavy for me... anyway I think about it...
     
  10. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Gretschie

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    Maybe you're right, but I wanna try to find it.
    The fact is that I've got a looong way with stairs from home to street (and no other place to keep the amp ... ;))
    So I hope that with a 30watts the cleans stay cleans when I play in small pubs ... Anyway no problem with a little of cranking...
     
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  11. Robbie

    Robbie Country Gent

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    Perhaps you may want to try out Fender Deluxe. 22 watts, single 12"" speaker. '65 Reissue or '68 Custom Deluxe.

    You might also want to look at a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe. It's 40 watts but has Fender cleans for days and days and weighs about 45 pounds. They don't get a lot of love at times but I used one for years and did it's job well. FWIW, ignore its drive channel(s)
     
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  12. stiv

    stiv Synchromatic

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    I'm here mate, anytime.
    To be honest, it's heavy but not unsustaneable heavy. I carried it on a couple of european tours in Uk, France, Netherlands and Switzerland and it's been ok. It's not a Vox, to be more specific. Like loudnlousy said, for cleans you need power. For power you need big output trasformers, and they're heavy.
    Grazie!
     
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  13. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Gretschie

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    Fender Deluxe 22w could be a good choice...
     
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  14. Rusty Silver

    Rusty Silver Gretschie

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    Does anybody test a Peavey classic 30? What about clean tones? Comparable to Fender cleans?
     
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  15. gruffydd3

    gruffydd3 Electromatic

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    I tried out the classic 30 and the deluxe. The Peavey is a nice amp, but the Fender won for clean tones. I've had it for about 3 months now and I'm real happy with it.
     
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  16. Jet_streamliner

    Jet_streamliner Gretschie

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    I’d recommend a Koch Jupiter Jr. I own the larger 45w version, and it’s a great amp! Nice cleans & dirty sounds. Very versatile & not a back breaker. It’s a hybrid amp (12ax7s and solid state power) but it sounds great.

    http://www.koch-amps.com/guitar-combo-jupiter-710219.html
     
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  17. Stencil

    Stencil Gretschie

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    I am not at all qualified to talk about clean tones, given that I'd have a hard time recognising one if I heard it.

    However... given your objectives and constraints, I'd encourage you to try the Laney Lionheart 20W with a 12" Celestion. (The amp in the linked review is the 2X12 -- I own the 1X12, which is noticeably lighter.)

    Otherwise, if you don't mind going offshore, I'd strongly endorse Ceriatone, based in Malaysia. They started out as a kit provider, then moved on to providing finished product, and increasingly using their own designs. Their CEO, Nick, is a Cornell U engineering grad. Their value proposition in terms of design, component quality, assembly quality and price is second to none. They only really fall down on brand recognition, but even there my local French amp tech speaks highly of them.

    I bought a OTS lunchbox from them (a Dumble-style 20 W amp head) five years ago, and it did the Dumble 3D thing to the sound as advertised and has been reliable. Nick was a joy to deal with, even indulging my whim for hot pink tolex on what was then their flagship product.

    Enjoy the shopping!
    Cheers,
     
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  18. dilver

    dilver Country Gent

    Feb 16, 2009
    NJ
    +1. I have a Fender '65 DRRI and it will give you plenty cleans. You might just want to budget for a better speaker. I use an Eminence Cannabis Rex and it's smooths out the spiky treble of this particular model of Deluxe Reverb, really nicely.
     
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  19. larryb

    larryb Gretschified

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    My Kustom all-tube '36 Coupe
    Light enough, loud enough...with great cleans and screams....and can be found used for $200-$300 bucks...not to mention cool as heck, visually

    Love this amp and it has it's own unique sound...Fender meets Marshall with a dash of Peavey.....just wish I had the red one too:cool:
     

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  20. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
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    I have a Delta Blues 1x 15" and it has great clean tone, its a heavy sucker though but manageable.
     
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