A Les Trem can be a thing of beauty...

Discussion in 'The Great Bigsby forum' started by Stencil, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. Stencil

    Stencil Gretschie

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    Gif-sur-Yvette, or the AF lounge
    ...on guitars that wouldn't look so good with a Bigsby.

    I've had a Firebird under my bed (literally) for a couple of years. Bought it for a ridiculous price, new, from the erstwhile Gibson-Amazon shop, when Gibson was being boycotted by Thomann, and Gibson was desperate to offload inventory.

    I love Tremelo/Vibrato arms, but I thought a Bigsby would not work with the Firebird's aesthetics, and would be expensive (especially if one factored in a Vibramate kit to avoid drilling holes.) Then I discovered the Duesenberg Les Trem:
    • works on any guitar with a Gibson-spaced stop-tailpiece and takes 5 mn to install;
    • reasonably priced (€89, with German precision steel enginering);
    • on the Firebird, it works very well, and the guitar stays in tune; and
    • IMHO, it looks absolutely fabulous!
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    Not sure how good it would look on a Gretsch -- perhaps on a Corvette?

    Cheers,
    Dominique.
     
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  2. calebaaron666

    calebaaron666 Country Gent

    Aug 15, 2018
    Portland, Maine
    The few pictures I’ve seen of these les trems, I thought they looked kinda ugly.
    However, it looks awesome on this bird! Looks like a solid piece of machinery that’s meant to be there.
    Well done!
     
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  3. CNPCNP

    CNPCNP Synchromatic

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    Jan 3, 2015
    NL
    Another fan here, I put one (Duesenberg Les Trem II, EU70-ish) on a 'toy-guitar' (offset ES-335 clone) and it works & looks great!

    They come in both Nickel & Chrome, which is nice.

    I didn't swap the TOM-bridge for a roller-type so far, doesn't seem to be needed, but I did use nut-sauce etc.

    Can well imagine they look ugly on some guitars, weird on others and just great on yet other types of guitar.
     
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  4. rcboals

    rcboals Country Gent

    Nov 21, 2008
    Springfield Oregon
    They are great and don't screw up you original guitar. I really does look good on the firebird. I prefer a factory equipped bigsby guitar. The Duesenberg Les Trem II is very satisfactory without messing up or lowering the value of you guitar. Here i my demo.
     
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  5. larryb

    larryb Gretschified

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    Oct 29, 2012
    Greenville, SC
    Love Firebirds!! Looks fab on there:cool:

    Here is my Yamaha with a Duesy Trem....works like a charm and stays in perfect tune with standard TOM style bridge!

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  6. Tinman46

    Tinman46 Country Gent

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    Dec 19, 2011
    Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
    I built a Corvette copy and put a Les Trem on it. I think it looks good. It works flawlessly.
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  7. larryb

    larryb Gretschified

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  8. KuKuKu

    KuKuKu Gretschie

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    Aug 28, 2016
    Germany
    I've got a Les Trem on my Epi Sheraton. Unfortunately ist started to develop some squeaking noise when I use the whammy bar. Any idea, what piece I have to lube to get rid of the squeaking?
     
  9. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    Yes,I agree - perfect for a FireBird.

    Conversely it wouldn't be as nice as a B7 on an ES-335...

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    A+!
     
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  10. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

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    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    I put a LesTrem on my Flying V once.
    After a vew hours I put it off again and sold it immediately.

    The device felt completely flimsy.
    The tremoloarm went loose everytime I was using it.
    It altered the sound ot the guitar in a way I did not like.
    I did not like the overall-look as well.
    Not my cup of tea.
     
  11. Freshy

    Freshy Synchromatic

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    My DeArmond Les Paul killer is a looker and a player
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  12. Sid Nitzerglobin

    Sid Nitzerglobin Country Gent

    Jun 8, 2015
    fROMOHIO
    Les Trems are great, so far I've put them on 3 guitars and function and looks are awesome. The only caveat is that they crowd my hand when mounted on traditionally spaced tailpiece bushings (like the Wilshire pictured below). It's right up there as the perfect vibrato for me on the Mach IV and Six Gun though.
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  13. larryb

    larryb Gretschified

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    Oct 29, 2012
    Greenville, SC
    Great color!!!:cool::)
     
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  14. Sid Nitzerglobin

    Sid Nitzerglobin Country Gent

    Jun 8, 2015
    fROMOHIO
    I've never encountered any squeaking on my Les Trem equipped guitars so far, but I'd probably check to make sure the spring is sitting nicely in the cup/arm attachment pivot, that the studs are tight in the bushings, and the base of the tailpiece isn't shifting under load first.
     
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  15. CNPCNP

    CNPCNP Synchromatic

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    Jan 3, 2015
    NL
    Apart from the regular stoptail swaps, it's sure nice to also see those Les Trem installation above on guitars with more string length south of the bridge!
     
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  16. CNPCNP

    CNPCNP Synchromatic

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    Jan 3, 2015
    NL
    Oh, the irony :) Duesenberg probably worked hard to make the design universal for left & right hand guitars, and its totally ignored :D
     
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  17. CNPCNP

    CNPCNP Synchromatic

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    Jan 3, 2015
    NL
    I do like the trem-arm, and the end-grip is stylish I'd say. So I went looking for applying that 'vibe' elsewhere on that 'toy-guitar' as well.

    The Duesenberg Rotary-Switchknob looks gorgeous, but alas, no application I could think of.

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    The Duesenberg 3-step Switchknob reportedly fits both blade and toggle switches, should try it.
    Saw just one picture, not sure how it'd be fastened... set-screw?

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  18. Stencil

    Stencil Gretschie

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    Gif-sur-Yvette, or the AF lounge
    Yes indeed, that demo was one of the 2 or 3 I saw that convinced me that the Les Trem was a viable option -- and your playing is delightful and inspiring!
    Cheers,
     
  19. Stencil

    Stencil Gretschie

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    Oct 19, 2009
    Gif-sur-Yvette, or the AF lounge
    You, kind Sir, have Superlative taste in solid-body electric guitar design. (Not to mention the fact that the byzantine work environment of your pix has gone a long way towards demonstrating to my partner that my messiness may not be unique.)
    Cheers,
     
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  20. Highroller

    Highroller Synchromatic

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    Jun 11, 2015
    Portland, OR
    Older, original Les Trem on my Reverend Club King 290. There's nothing I don't like about it. Works every bit as good as a Bigsby, imho.

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