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A pain in the palm...
This is my new 2008 G6128TCG:
I love it! Well, most of it, anyway. You see, it has this Melita/Synchro Sonic bridge on it:
There may be some here who enjoy this piece, but I loathe, despise and detest it. Its just a miserable thing to rest your hand on, and it takes so much away from the pleasure of playing this guitar, I have to wonder what the good folks at Gretsch were thinking when they designed it! The high E string makes a sharp 'tink' noise when I pull it. Loose saddle? And I get a lot of wolfnotes from string vibration between the bridge and the Bigsby. That bridge has gotta go!
Which brings me around to "Whatcha gonna do 'bout it?"
From my readings on this forum, it looks like the ideal answer may be a CCC bridge.
OK, but it won't fit on the Melita base (3 1/2" post spacing), so I'll have to get a new one. The string spacing is 2 1/8", so does that mean I need 3" post spacing? Or 2.9"? Where do I find one? Ebony? Rosewood?
Are there any tricks to keeping that floating bridge from floating out of position?
I use D'Addario EXL-110 plain G string sets (.010, .013, .017, .026, .036, .046) on most of my guitars. That's probably what I'll use on the Duo Jet. But sometimes, I go to EXL-115W wound G string set (.011, .014, .021, .028, .038, .049) for better tone, and because the wound G string blends in better with the rest of them. If I order a CCC bridge, I'll need to pick one set or the other, and specify the notches to suit.
So, is the intonation good enough to use with the heavier strings, or am I stuck with the EXL-110s if I use a CCC bridge? Not necessarily a bad thing. The strings that were on the Jet as delivered are pretty close. If the G string of the EXL-110 set stands out too much, can I address that by adjusting the pole pieces of the Dyna Sonic pickups?
A lot of questions, I know. But I want to know what my options are, here.
This is a really good guitar, but the bridge means the difference btween 'good' and 'great' for me.
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Welcome. Perhaps you might consider a Compton bridge. Lots of people, including myself, have put them on their Jets and other Gretsches. Wayne Compton's a member here, and goes by Worknot on the board. Do a search here and you'll get a lot of info...
Nice Duo Jet you got there LATS!
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Not sure if there's a Compton with that spacing.
Easy enough to check.
Intonation with a fixed bridge will never be perfect.
The Compton is close.
Some use mixed string sets to get better intonation with fixed bridges.
I'd rather use what I'm comfortable with and deal with imperfect intonation.
As for the floating bridge staying put, the least invasive ways seem to be rubbing the bottom with bow rosin or gluing little pieces of sandpaper (I use #400) to the bottom of the bridge.
This has worked for me for years and I do NOT have a delicate touch.
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hey LATS, send worknot a PM. he might be able to see what he can do about making a bridge for you. he's basically a "one man" operation and he's pretty flexible. he's a really nice guy to work with. I met him back in May at the Northwoods Jam.
as far as strings, I use ghs CL's on my "New" Jet. they are a hybred set. the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd are 9's. and the 4th, 5th, and 6th are 10's. I like them because I tend to bend the strings a lot. I have 10's on my Les Paul, though. 
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Regarding adjusting the pole pieces, a quick look at this post might be useful.
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hey LATS, send worknot a PM. he might be able to see what he can do about making a bridge for you. he's basically a "one man" operation and he's pretty flexible. he's a really nice guy to work with. I met him back in May at the Northwoods Jam.
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Good point. I'll do just that!
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as far as strings, I use ghs CL's on my "New" Jet. they are a hybred set. the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd are 9's. and the 4th, 5th, and 6th are 10's. I like them because I tend to bend the strings a lot. I have 10's on my Les Paul, though. 
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I play D'Addario strings because I enjoy their consistency. And I use only two sets because I buy in bulk. I'm not enthusiastic about tailoring string gauges to suit a particular guitar. Seems like a 'prima dona' thing, to me. From S macp's reply, it looks like I can balance out the EXL-110 strings.
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Welcome and what a beautiful guitar. On my Jets I always liked the bar bridge and was able to get the intonation close enough for me. I really like the tone of the bar bridge but it has its' limitations. I went through tunamatics of many types and even one of those syncros but took out the thumb screws and use truss head allen SS - which were much easier on the palm - but still - ended up back with the Bar bridge. That was awhile ago though and since then these Compton bridges have come out and I hear nothing but good thing about them.
Hope you resolve the issue it surely is a fine guitar.
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Welcome and what a beautiful guitar. On my Jets I always liked the bar bridge and was able to get the intonation close enough for me. I really like the tone of the bar bridge but it has its' limitations. I went through tunamatics of many types and even one of those syncros but took out the thumb screws and use truss head allen SS - which were much easier on the palm - but still - ended up back with the Bar bridge. That was awhile ago though and since then these Compton bridges have come out and I hear nothing but good thing about them.
Hope you resolve the issue it surely is a fine guitar.
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Thanks for the comments, 98SSU. I've seen eBay listings for 'low profile' screws for the Syncho-Sonic bridge, but I don't think that gets it.
If I can suss out a proper base, I'll probably get a Compton. Gotta decide which material to go with...
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Welcome, LATS! Gorgeous Jet! Opening this thread and being hit with that big pic knocked me outa my chair.
I can really only echo what others have said. The easiest route would to be replacing the screws with more rounded ones, but the best way to solve this problem is to get a CCC from Worknot. The thing I’m not sure about is whether or not the pole spacing is irregular when measured to what the CCC bridges are made to accommodate. My guess is Pop's can likely take care of this. If not, Stew-Mac and other places sell wooden bridge bases that you could use with the CCC, even if you need to sand and shape the feet to match the contour of the Jet’s top.
As one of many, many thrilled users of Pop's bridges, you'll love the way your guitar sounds and feels with one on there. Keep us posted.
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I was checking out those Melita low profile screws as well. I haven't ordered any yet however. I just recieved a bridge base from these folks http://www.darrenriley.com/Gretschparts.htm and I'm putting a Compton bridge on.
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This is my new 2008 G6128TCG:
I love it! Well, most of it, anyway. You see, it has this Melita/Synchro Sonic bridge on it:
There may be some here who enjoy this piece, but I loathe, despise and detest it. Its just a miserable thing to rest your hand on, and it takes so much away from the pleasure of playing this guitar, I have to wonder what the good folks at Gretsch were thinking when they designed it! The high E string makes a sharp 'tink' noise when I pull it. Loose saddle? And I get a lot of wolfnotes from string vibration between the bridge and the Bigsby. That bridge has gotta go!
Which brings me around to "Whatcha gonna do 'bout it?"
From my readings on this forum, it looks like the ideal answer may be a CCC bridge.
OK, but it won't fit on the Melita base (3 1/2" post spacing), so I'll have to get a new one. The string spacing is 2 1/8", so does that mean I need 3" post spacing? Or 2.9"? Where do I find one? Ebony? Rosewood?
Are there any tricks to keeping that floating bridge from floating out of position?
I use D'Addario EXL-110 plain G string sets (.010, .013, .017, .026, .036, .046) on most of my guitars. That's probably what I'll use on the Duo Jet. But sometimes, I go to EXL-115W wound G string set (.011, .014, .021, .028, .038, .049) for better tone, and because the wound G string blends in better with the rest of them. If I order a CCC bridge, I'll need to pick one set or the other, and specify the notches to suit.
So, is the intonation good enough to use with the heavier strings, or am I stuck with the EXL-110s if I use a CCC bridge? Not necessarily a bad thing. The strings that were on the Jet as delivered are pretty close. If the G string of the EXL-110 set stands out too much, can I address that by adjusting the pole pieces of the Dyna Sonic pickups?
A lot of questions, I know. But I want to know what my options are, here.
This is a really good guitar, but the bridge means the difference btween 'good' and 'great' for me.
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Congrats on the Jet. I have a 6128TCG and it's usually the first guitar I reach for. Mine also came with the Melita bridge which I started out liking but soon got tired of it for the reasons you mention. I went with a titanium Compton. I got the base from Bobkat here on the forum so I don't know the ultimate source but it appears that the bases that come with the archtop bridges at Stewart McDonald should be a good starting point. The post spacing is 2.980" so that should be a breeze. You might have to fit it to the top but one never knows, it may fit right out of the box. The Compton, regardless of material, will increase sustain and give you a great, focused sound.
As far as intonation is concerned, it's been my experience that any normally balanced set of strings will intonate pretty well with a Compton. On my 6128 I use 10 - 48 D'Addario Chromes with a plain .017" string substituted for the .020" wound string that coes with the set. I wouls imagine that EXL 110s and EXL 115s would work pretty well possibly requiring a slight adjustment away from the nut.
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Thanks for the info, Synchro!
If you don't mind me asking, why did you pick the Titanium bridge, and what does it sound like?
Given the lighter mass, and hard material, I would expect it to be very clear, maybe a little too clear?
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Thanks for the info, Synchro!
If you don't mind me asking, why did you pick the Titanium bridge, and what does it sound like?
Given the lighter mass, and hard material, I would expect it to be very clear, maybe a little too clear?
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It's very clear with a lot of rich overtones. I played one on Wayne's personal 5122 and loved the sound so it was but a matter of time before I got one of my own. No regrets.
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Update:
Worknot graciously PMed me some info, and I have made my decision.
I'm getting a rosewood/gold base from Darren Riley (thanks, Bengal65!) and a brass CCC bridge.
I think the rosewood base will look better with the rosewood fretboard and the mahogany body. I've never noticed any tonal difference between rosewood and ebony.
When I was working as a machinist, I made some brass parts for some of the guitars I had back then. I like the tone.
The only thing I like better than a brass nut, is one made from bone, so I'll add one of those, too.
I will update again when I get it all together.
hmm... that might be a tall order.
How 'bout "I'll update when I get the new bridge & nut installed, ." 
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from what I've seen of those bridges, you're going to be very pleased.
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Update:
Worknot graciously PMed me some info, and I have made my decision.
I'm getting a rosewood/gold base from Darren Riley (thanks, Bengal65!) and a brass CCC bridge.
I think the rosewood base will look better with the rosewood fretboard and the mahogany body. I've never noticed any tonal difference between rosewood and ebony.
When I was working as a machinist, I made some brass parts for some of the guitars I had back then. I like the tone.
The only thing I like better than a brass nut, is one made from bone, so I'll add one of those, too.
I will update again when I get it all together.
hmm... that might be a tall order.
How 'bout "I'll update when I get the new bridge & nut installed, ." 
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YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMY!
Sarah is going to short circuit her keyboard when she sees these pics!
As for a Melita replacement, I second all the calls for comptons, I've put one on both my Jets and I'll never ever ever look back!
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Update:
Worknot graciously PMed me some info, and I have made my decision.
I'm getting a rosewood/gold base from Darren Riley (thanks, Bengal65!) and a brass CCC bridge.
I think the rosewood base will look better with the rosewood fretboard and the mahogany body. I've never noticed any tonal difference between rosewood and ebony.
When I was working as a machinist, I made some brass parts for some of the guitars I had back then. I like the tone.
The only thing I like better than a brass nut, is one made from bone, so I'll add one of those, too.
I will update again when I get it all together.
hmm... that might be a tall order.
How 'bout "I'll update when I get the new bridge & nut installed, ." 
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Please keep us posted on the new bridge base. I’m really curious to see how it fits right out the box.
Your Jet is gaining coolness exponentially. 
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Please keep us posted on the new bridge base. I’m really curious to see how it fits right out the box.
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Actually, I don't think it will fit the body. Darren only offers ebony bases for Gretsch solid bodies. The rosewood/gold combo is only available for hollow-bodies.
I've been woodworking since I was able to see over the bench, so I'm not worried about matching things up.
So far, the only wrinkle has been that the brass 2.9" 9.5"r that I need is sold out.
Meh, it'll give me time to match the base to the top of the Duo Jet.
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This is such a sweet guitar, I'm wishing I was a better player. I think when I get this bridge issue sorted, I'll be woodshedding like a mad thing. Right now, though, it frustrates me big-time. And the weird technique adjustments I have to make to accomodate this POS Synchro-Sonic make me worrry about having to unlearn a bunch of bad habits.
On the plus side, I waited a long, long time to get one of these, so another little while is no biggie. And I know the result is gonna be worth the wait.
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YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMY!
Sarah is going to short circuit her keyboard when she sees these pics!
As for a Melita replacement, I second all the calls for comptons, I've put one on both my Jets and I'll never ever ever look back!
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You have two Jets, and you're moving to Canada? Oh, be still, my heart! j/k
What material did you choose for the bridges? What do they sound like?
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All these discussions just remind me of several years ago on the GDP, before the Synchro bridge had been reissued. At that time an original Melita bridge would go for a premium on ebay(and they still can be quite pricey today). I remember guys raving about buying a Gretsch guitar..."Now I'm going on ebay and see if I can track down an old Melita to replace this POS adjustomatic or (I have to laugh here)bar bridge!" At that time it was considered the "Holy Grail" of bridges to some vintage Gretsch freaks, because it was adjustable like a tune-o-matic, but it was a Gretsch tune-o-matic(so to speak).
I remember Setzer getting one, and Zuma got one...a few others. I remember reading that some of the material was bakelite plastic, which would have a different effect on the tone. But the Melitas still had those tall pieces, supposedly making it hard to mute strings(I have a Synchro on my Country Club, and for the record muting is not really a problem for me).
It amazed me back then...people paying upwards of 250 to 300 bucks for an original Melita in good shape. Then the Synchro reissue came out...everybody seemed to notice they're not the Holy Grail after all...and as time goes on it just seems that they've fallen more out of favor with each new day.
Now ya see why I've stayed with a bar bridge all these years...if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 
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All these discussions just remind me of several years ago on the GDP, before the Synchro bridge had been reissued. At that time an original Melita bridge would go for a premium on ebay(and they still can be quite pricey today). I remember guys raving about buying a Gretsch guitar..."Now I'm going on ebay and see if I can track down an old Melita to replace this POS adjustomatic or (I have to laugh here)bar bridge!" At that time it was considered the "Holy Grail" of bridges to some vintage Gretsch freaks, because it was adjustable like a tune-o-matic, but it was a Gretsch tune-o-matic(so to speak).
I remember Setzer getting one, and Zuma got one...a few others. I remember reading that some of the material was bakelite plastic, which would have a different effect on the tone. But the Melitas still had those tall pieces, supposedly making it hard to mute strings(I have a Synchro on my Country Club, and for the record muting is not really a problem for me).
It amazed me back then...people paying upwards of 250 to 300 bucks for an original Melita in good shape. Then the Synchro reissue came out...everybody seemed to notice they're not the Holy Grail after all...and as time goes on it just seems that they've fallen more out of favor with each new day.
Now ya see why I've stayed with a bar bridge all these years...if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 
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I have to plead guilty to drinking that Kool-Aid myself. I got a Melita on my 6128 and loved it . . . less and less each day.
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... It amazed me back then...people paying upwards of 250 to 300 bucks for an original Melita in good shape. ... Now ya see why I've stayed with a bar bridge all these years...if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 
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Mwahahahaaaaa.... anyone willing to pay $250 to $300 for a Melita bridge can contact me - please! 
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Mwahahahaaaaa.... anyone willing to pay $250 to $300 for a Melita bridge can contact me - please! 
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I'll beat his price by $25. 
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You have two Jets, and you're moving to Canada? Oh, be still, my heart! j/k
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I have 2 jets.. for now!..
Expect many more in the future   I need to catch up to Darin!
Pity I'm moving to the other end of the country, eh?
I went for stainless steel as I'm a rock girl and that's what Wayne and the early adopters recommended at the time, I have nothing to compare them to (in regards to other materials) but I absolutely love them, they've added more chime, more clarity, more depth & a hell of a lot of sustain! Not to mention the space controllers are even more of a pain in the palm than the melitas!
Can't wait to hear what you think of yours!
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I have 2 jets.. for now!..
Expect many more in the future   I need to catch up to Darin!
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My TCG brought the stable up to 14 guitars. Considering that I haven't played a paying gig since 1971, I think its time to thin the herd.
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Actually, Toronto is about halfway across, putting it in Central Canada.
Although most of the people who live there seem to think its the centre of the universe.
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I went for stainless steel as I'm a rock girl and that's what Wayne and the early adopters recommended at the time, I have nothing to compare them to (in regards to other materials) but I absolutely love them, they've added more chime, more clarity, more depth & a hell of a lot of sustain!
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Good to know. Words like "clarity", "depth" and "sustain" seem to appear in all of the reviews, regardless of the material.
I've decided to go with a brass piece. I'm just waiting for Wayne to replenish his stock.
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Not to mention the space controllers are even more of a pain in the palm than the melitas!
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Yikes! Those things look like stacked table-saw blades!
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One of the things I like about this forum is the way everybody is as enthusistic about this as I am! Thanks!
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My TCG brought the stable up to 14 guitars. Considering that I haven't played a paying gig since 1971, I think its time to thin the herd.
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Yeah I'm at 16 now *shakes head in shame* I can relate.. my bedroom is being overrun ..a couple of the unloved Gibsons need to go, especially that darned deluxe!
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Actually, Toronto is about halfway across, putting it in Central Canada.
Although most of the people who live there seem to think its the centre of the universe. 
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Hah! they can't be as bad as Sydneysiders, ever since the Olympics were here even the homeless people think the sun shines out of their rear ends! They've all turned into self-centred elitists.
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Good to know. Words like "clarity", "depth" and "sustain" seem to appear in all of the reviews, regardless of the material.
I've decided to go with a brass piece. I'm just waiting for Wayne to replenish his stock.
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It's hard to believe how much of a change the CCC will make when you read about it.. but you'll hear it even as you're re-tightening your strings!
Nice choice, I don't think you can go wrong with any of the materials - brass will look like a perfect fit with your hardware
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Yikes! Those things look like stacked table-saw blades! 
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They are, they are.. so glad to be free of them!
I don't know what they were smoking when they designed em.. but I want some!
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One of the things I like about this forum is the way everybody is as enthusistic about this as I am! Thanks!
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It's a great place, innit! definitely the best forum I've had the pleasure of hanging out on in all my years of geekery 
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January 19th, 2010, 12:06 AM
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Please keep us posted on the new bridge base. I’m really curious to see how it fits right out the box...
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Actually, I don't think it will fit the body. Darren only offers ebony bases for Gretsch solid bodies. The rosewood/gold combo is only available for hollow-bodies.
I've been woodworking since I was able to see over the bench, so I'm not worried about matching things up...
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The rosewood base was waiting in my mailbox when I got home today.
It fits, out of the box. No work to do at all, except wait for the bridge, and then put it on the guitar.
Part #0062778000 Bridge Base Hollowbody Rosewood. From > Darren Riley's Guitar & Amp Repair Raleigh NC<
I don't know if all Jets have the same body curvature in the bridge area, but this part fits my 2008 G6128TCG like hand-in-glove.
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In other news, I had some rare good luck with the CCC bridge. The brass one that I wanted was out of stock when I tried to order it. While I was waiting for new stock to come in, Wayne announced that he was gearing up for a Titanium run, on a pre-order basis. I signed up for the waiting list.
Got the news today. The run is a 'go' and now all I have to do is wait a bit more....
~sigh~
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Congratulations times two!
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Wont be long till you're cradling that sweet Ti Compton in your palm, I'm jealous! 
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Its a good thing I have other guitars to play while I'm waiting. I don't have the tools or the skills for making a bone nut, so when the Compton comes in, I'll be booking an appointment with my favourite luthier.
And then I'll have to wait some more....
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First, a bit of a re-cap:
The picture in the > first post< shows what my G6128TCG looked like when I bought it.
Doesn't this look like a real nice place to rest the edge of your hand while you play? NOT! Bad enough that I couldn't reach the saddles to palm mute, but consider what happened when my hand skimmed those screw heads while I was strumming!
After reading various comments from a lot of people on this forum, it bacame obvious that there was only one acceptable solution: a CCC bridge. I initially chose brass, thinking it would look good with the gold hardware. The reviews often used the word "smooth", which I like, but also the word "mellow", which isn't really 'me' but I don't know where that sits on the reviewer's scale of reference. This quickly became moot, since Wayne was out of stock when I tried to place an order for a brass bridge.
And then, Wayne announced an upcoming run of his legendary Titanium pieces! Considering what parts places charge for TOM-type bridges, and given the Ti reputation, I just had to get one. I signed up for the waiting list, and ordered a new rosewood base.
The rosewood base was soon waiting for me in my mailbox when I got home from work.
It fits, out of the box. No work to do at all, except wait for the bridge, and then put it on the guitar.
Part #0062778000 Bridge Base Hollowbody Rosewood. From > Darren Riley's Guitar & Amp Repair<
I don't know if all Jets have the same body curvature in the bridge area, but this part fits my 2008 G6128TCG like hand-in-glove. I used some 3M abrasive cloth to radius the exposed edges a bit, but there was no need to reshape the bottom at all.
Then the bridge arrived.
It looks good. It feels good. Some objects invite you to touch them. Just the shape and texture lure your fingers. Such is the Compton bridge. The combination of flowing surfaces and slightly rounded edges is irresistable!
I loosened the strings, removed that Synchro Sonic, and slipped the Ti CCC into place.
As Tara said, the difference is noticeable even while you are re-tightening the strings! The acoustic qualities of my Duo Jet were greatly enhanced. Much louder, much clearer, with subtleties like pick attack becoming apparent even without amplification. And then, when I plugged in.... eargasm! Rich, clear tone, and endless sutain.
You want an idea of how much tone the Melita bridge takes away? I booked my Duo Jet in to the luthier for a setup, before I even had all of the pieces in hand. One of the things I asked for was a bone nut. He called up after he started working on it, to ask me why I wanted to replace the bone nut that was already on there! I was sure it was plastic. Now, I'm convinced that the fella who posted that his Dyna Sonic pickups sounded kinda 'plinky' needs a CCC bridge, not new pickups.
One quirky thing is the 'reverse' slant of the final bridge position when intonated:
The action is now so low that I need to adjust my playing technique.
Which is as good an excuse as any for the amount of time I now spend playing this beautiful guitar. Until I tossed the Melita, I could only tolerate a few minutes at a time.

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Must be great to get it finished at last.
Strange about the bridge angle. Have you checked the nut? If the strings are not seated correctly at the nut this could be the reason for the strange angle.
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The silver goes well with the gold.
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Must be great to get it finished at last.
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Strange about the bridge angle. Have you checked the nut? If the strings are not seated correctly at the nut this could be the reason for the strange angle.
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Everything is seated and proper. Bear in mind that I use EXL115W strings. 0.11" - 0.049", with a wound G. The slant of the actual ridge across the top of the bridge is almost straight across. The way that ridge is angled on the bridge exaggerates the slant of the base.
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Congrats! That is one sweet looking guitar!
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I know you can get a Tru-Arc with Melita spacing. I have Tru-Arcs on both of my hollowbodies (Gretsch 5125 and Ibanez AFS75T) and absolutely love them. Also, there is no more comfortable bridege to rest your hand on with its smooth, rounded top like a Gretsch RBB only with the correct radus.
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Double Aces to your new Titanium bridge. I got one recently, too and it turned my 5120 into a brand-new instrument, even before my pickup swap project.
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you know Dave, I've been bouncing back and forth between getting a regular Duo Jet and one like yours. and thanks to this thread that CG is looking pretty good right now.  glad to see that you've finally got her fixed up.
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Oh, yeah! 
Everything is seated and proper. Bear in mind that I use EXL115W strings. 0.11" - 0.049", with a wound G.
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Just out of interest.
I understand that the CCC bridges are normally slotted for 10 ~ 46 gauged strings, presumably with an unwound G. So is your bridge compensated for the wound G?
I understand the extra diameter changes the point of correct intonation between wound and unwound? Some acoustics now having split bridges to compensate as they more often have a wound G.
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