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Old May 17th, 2012, 06:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A few years back i reached the limit of what i could really do music-wise due to my limited theory knowledge. I was ok with where i was at for a while but this year i've really tried to make a push to be better.

So i've decided the next thing to do is really learn my triads and how to use them, the problem i'm finding is that it seems so daunting. Where do i start? Do i just need to memorize all these flat out or is there a trick to it? I know there are no shortcuts to getting better but i need some direction. Any tips? Good sites to check out?

Thanks in advance.

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Old May 17th, 2012, 07:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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http://www.justinguitar.com/en/CH-008-Triads.php

I am NOT a theory guy at all. Mostly self taught and self destructed. SO, given that ringing endorsement, this site may not be a bad place for you to start. I found it helpful. Then again, I was dropped on my head when I was very young. Repeatedly.

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Those are some good ideas on the video, although there's a whole world involving triads once you get past the basics. For starters, I think doing major triads helps you absorb the shapes and the sounds of those shapes. Play up and down the neck -- a D in the first position, a D in the fifth fret, a D in the tenth fret, and then back down. Do this with all of your chords. The amazing thing is that these exercises become extremely musical after awhile, and you'll find yourself starting to play rhythms. This is certainly not to be avoided. Triads completely revolutionized my sense of the guitar. Good luck and happy playing!
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I am NOT a theory guy at all. Mostly self taught and self destructed. SO, given that ringing endorsement, this site may not be a bad place for you to start. I found it helpful. Then again, I was dropped on my head when I was very young. Repeatedly.

Play on!

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soooo, your teacher didn't know how to play guitar? LOL!!!! Mine either!
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Any good YouTubes on couplets (dyads?)
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Old May 18th, 2012, 01:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the pointers. Time to do work i guess. I really wish i had started on this kind of stuff when i was younger and my brain was quicker to memorize stuff.
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Thanks for the pointers. Time to do work i guess. I really wish i had started on this kind of stuff when i was younger and my brain was quicker to memorize stuff.
I know the feeling. I got back into taking lessons again about 1.75 years ago to understand theory and be a better player. While I've come a long way and have written what I think are some pretty interesting, fun, and complex songs and riffs, I still feel like I should be at a higher level from all the effort I have put in. And I can't blame it all on the teacher. ha. I still struggle with being able to name the notes of all the frets without having to think about it for a bit along with awkward chord shapes, sweeping, arpeggios, triads, subsitutions, adds, clamming up while I play in front of others, and etc.
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Since you asked, I do have a series on doublestop melodies. Here is the first one:

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Since you asked, I do have a series on doublestop melodies. Here is the first one:


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I am NOT a theory guy at all. Mostly self taught and self destructed. SO, given that ringing endorsement, this site may not be a bad place for you to start. I found it helpful. Then again, I was dropped on my head when I was very young. Repeatedly.

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Thanks for that website. I think I'll be on there quite a bit. I was taught the basic of guitar playing by my dad and it was basically just chords and a few tunes. I've learnt a bit since then but not the theory and such like. time to start learning all over again
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Forgot about this thread.

Thanks for uploading the vids, finding all kinds of great info there.
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Thank you Leon, I'm coming aboard!
I've always played double stops by ear in a hit & miss fashion. I'm looking forward to finding out how to do it properly.
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Thank you Leon, I'm coming aboard!
I've always played double stops by ear in a hit & miss fashion. I'm looking forward to finding out how to do it properly.
I hope you find my stuff helpful.
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Since you asked, I do have a series on doublestop melodies. Here is the first one:

Any relation to Louis Grizzard?

Hey - those are nice doubles. Can you re-do this on a Gretsch? Ha ha ha.
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Hey - those are nice doubles. Can you re-do this on a Gretsch? Ha ha ha.
I don't know if we are (were) related or not. He was Georgia and my family came to Texas from Tennessee, so maybe.

I did my first video lessons, on Western Swing Rhythm Guitar, on my Country Gentleman, but I usually play a Tele.
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Most helpful thing for me was not only learning triads but all the major modes, melodic minor modes etc etc and thinking of it in terms of functions. The two lock in for me, you eventually can train your ear to hear if you've done the correct triad.
(I know this post was a while ago but still thought I could lend a helping hand)
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Old September 11th, 2012, 08:32 AM   #17 (permalink)
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A few years back i reached the limit of what i could really do music-wise due to my limited theory knowledge. I was ok with where i was at for a while but this year i've really tried to make a push to be better.

So i've decided the next thing to do is really learn my triads and how to use them, the problem i'm finding is that it seems so daunting. Where do i start? Do i just need to memorize all these flat out or is there a trick to it? I know there are no shortcuts to getting better but i need some direction. Any tips? Good sites to check out?

Thanks in advance.
Yes, there is a trick to learn chord construction faster. First you have to learn things such as intervals and the notes that each fret on each string corresponds to. For example every major chord is made up of a major 3rd (3 frets between notes) and a minor 3rd interval (2 frets between notes). Every minor chord is made up of a minor 3rd and major 3rd interval. Once you get the hang of it, you can construct them all over the fret board in all inversions.

I would start off by learning the theory on piano where it is easier to visualize these things due to the key layout.
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