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May 10th, 2011, 10:01 AM
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Country Gent
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Footprints recording of my Miles Davis workshop
Ha! Finally!
I've been recording the last two bandpractice sessions.
Last week was hardly worth listening to, but yesterday we actually pulled off a half decent version of 'Footprints' by Wayne Shorter.
I'm a little bit proud of this version; that chord sequence at the end of the theme back towards Cm7 is mine for the most part (F#13 F13 Edim A13 Ddim G7#5 Cm7 G7#5 Cm7).
Here's the link.
I have some more recordings (of last week) in my googledocs. Not sure if you can access them as well via that link though, but I'm not sure I'd want you to either.
I am not too happy with my solo though. I can hear myself tugging frantically at the strings, there is sound coming out, but there's too many bum notes and there's not really a story in there (other than, "aarg it's my turn!).
Oh well... I guess at least I try.
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May 10th, 2011, 10:23 AM
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Wow, that's some pretty ambitious music, at least for me. Kudos
I love your line about "not really a story in there". What a great way to think about soloing!
What gear are you using?
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May 10th, 2011, 10:45 AM
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Well it's about friggin' time!!
Sounds good man! Keep at it!
...I'm totally lifting those turnaround chords btw!
Looking forward to more!
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May 10th, 2011, 12:29 PM
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Wow, that's some pretty ambitious music, at least for me. Kudos
I love your line about "not really a story in there". What a great way to think about soloing!
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I'm using a BDRI with a 5751 tube in v1 (all tubes NOS RCA) and the guitar is my '09 Country Gentleman II strung with Thomastik flats .012
No FX, just guitar, amp and me.
What I'm saying in my solos is at least something like
"hey, we're in Cm and this is jazz".
My current ambition is to learn to say "now we're going towards Fm ... And Presto! Here we are in Fm".
No inauguration-speech quality yet, but I'm trying to progess at least a little towards on-site reporter so to say.
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Well it's about friggin' time!!
Sounds good man! Keep at it!
...I'm totally lifting those turnaround chords btw!
Looking forward to more!
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Thanks Megabutter, I think that means you're liking them. 
Ah yes, and 'turnaround' was the term I was looking for.
Sorry it took so long!
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May 10th, 2011, 12:32 PM
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Yes sir, that is exactly what it means.
...wish I had a Miles workshop around me!!
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May 10th, 2011, 12:35 PM
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"hey, we're in Cm and this is jazz".
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"Oh and incidently, even though footprints is Cm, the tonic is Eb, which means the lydian is ... Oh xxx I lost it" 
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May 10th, 2011, 12:46 PM
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I get lost moving from the I to the IV in a blues song! You have my utmost admiration for even attempting this stuff!
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May 10th, 2011, 01:19 PM
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Dang, you baited my hook.
So Cm and Eb major are relative major an minor. Same scale tones and chords in their families.
For some jazzy jazziness we could look at playing Bb major over the Cm (Dorian sounds). Or A major for some Phrygian sounds (experiment with a quick lick or two).
Over the Fm7 the Cm/Eb major is Dorian already.
So, try Bb major and a whole step up to Cm!
On the turnaround, try E melodic Minor. That should sit inside all those alt chords and sound all jazzy.
Cool! Let me know when you check it out!
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May 10th, 2011, 01:33 PM
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From out previous thread look at pattern 2 for the Bb and pattern 5 for the Cm. You'll stay centrally located with those.
Then you just need 5th string root melodic minor pattern for the 7th fret/5th string E.
Look at these:
I might have to shell out for them! We just got them back in.
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May 10th, 2011, 02:36 PM
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Is there any Gil Evans influence in this M Davis piece?
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May 10th, 2011, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ishtar
Is there any Gil Evans influence in this M Davis piece?
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What in the recording makes you say that? (out of curiosity!  )
Our arrangement is based (loosly?) on the original recording on the 1966 'Miles Smiles' album. Gill Evans wasn't personally involved with that album, but from what I read he and Miles worked a lot together prior to that album.
Our bandleader, Dion Nijland, is a professional Jazz player/composer. He'll probably have had his dose of Gill Evans, even if it were for the simple fact of Gill Evanses contributions to modal jazz.
Look him up on the 'tube: he's got a lot of stuff there. He even plays together regularly with Anton Goudsmit, one of my current guitar heroes. (hmm, that word has gotten a whole different meaning since that wretched console game  ).
And one of our sax players is a walking jazz encyclopedia (with sound clips!  ). Musically he's an accomplished (amateur) bebopper. He's an absolute joy to play with.
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May 10th, 2011, 04:02 PM
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Megabutter: I'll need my cheat sheets and a guitar to give you a sensible answer to that! I think that'll be tomorrow morning.
Those CDs, are those Jamie Aebersold, or a different artist?
Check out the iRealbook app if you have an i-device. You'll like the backing track function in there too. A little mechanical, but usefull nonetheless. 
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May 10th, 2011, 04:18 PM
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These are from Hal Leonard (whose play alongs I find way more hip than Aebersolds).
I hope it's some of the same personnel as some of the other play alongs.
I'll check out the irealbook for sure! Thanks!
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May 10th, 2011, 04:51 PM
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Check out the iRealbook app if you have an i-device. You'll like the backing track function in there too. A little mechanical, but usefull nonetheless. 
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I wish there were these "apps" for PC types like me 
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May 10th, 2011, 05:25 PM
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May 10th, 2011, 05:29 PM
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What in the recording makes you say that? (out of curiosity!  )
Our arrangement is based (loosly?) on the original recording on the 1966 'Miles Smiles' album. Gill Evans wasn't personally involved with that album, but from what I read he and Miles worked a lot together prior to that album.
Our bandleader, Dion Nijland, is a professional Jazz player/composer. He'll probably have had his dose of Gill Evans, even if it were for the simple fact of Gill Evanses contributions to modal jazz.
Look him up on the 'tube: he's got a lot of stuff there. He even plays together regularly with Anton Goudsmit, one of my current guitar heroes. (hmm, that word has gotten a whole different meaning since that wretched console game  ).
And one of our sax players is a walking jazz encyclopedia (with sound clips!  ). Musically he's an accomplished (amateur) bebopper. He's an absolute joy to play with.
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Very.... cool. And hot at the same time,during a waining moon when the humidity is rising....
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May 11th, 2011, 02:31 AM
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Very.... cool. And hot at the same time,during a waining moon when the humidity is rising....
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and the living is easy ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N090STPx-2M
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May 11th, 2011, 06:46 AM
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(F#13 F13 Edim A13 Ddim G7#5 Cm7 G7#5 Cm7).
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Actually, change that A13 to an A7#5. That way it stays inside.
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