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Old November 10th, 2011, 06:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Baritones, baritones, baritones...

So, after getting som info on baritone guitars, I have narrowed it down to the g5265, the PRS, forgot the name, its about 620, and yes, dare i say, danelectro wild thing. I am looking for some feedback from those of you that play them. I want the b to b tuning, not e to e. I will use it mostly for blues, even some slide, through my baseman. So, if you have tried one of these, let me know your thoughts. I choose these per price, i can't go above them, and i am most likely looking for used versions of them as well. new these go from 300 to 620. Leaning towards the gretsch, can't pass up a bigsby.

Have seen fenders, like teles and strats, and the one that is being built for one of our forum members, a Jaguar i believe, but can't afford those. nor can i do serious mods myself, only silly ones. . i also have no more guitars that i can mod. sold them or traded them off to get what i got now. So, I have a bass left over, and i am getting rid of that to fund this venture.

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Old November 11th, 2011, 01:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've got the PRS and a Schecter Hellraiser C-1 Bari's. The PRS has a chunkier neck and uses heaver strings. The top is flat, very light guitar. I put an EMG 60 in the neck and an 85 in the bridge and Sperzel locking tuners. The guitar was awesome stock, but I like to tweak things. The Schecter has a neck more like a '59 Les Paul, somewhat slimmer than the PRS. The top is arched which I really like and comes in Quilt maple. It comes with EMG's already that are coil tapable. Very nice single coil clean tones, then kick in the humbucker mode for some fatter tones. Both are excellent in build quality. Fretwork is spot on. Mine are tuned stock in B-B.
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Old November 11th, 2011, 02:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Maybe look at one of these, the DeArmond Bajo Jet, based on the old Guild S-200 Thunderbird design. They come up secondhand from time to time. And you get three DeArmond single coil pickups — OK, they're 2k ceramics, but still sound real twangy.

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Old November 11th, 2011, 07:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've got the PRS and a Schecter Hellraiser C-1 Bari's. The PRS has a chunkier neck and uses heaver strings. The top is flat, very light guitar. I put an EMG 60 in the neck and an 85 in the bridge and Sperzel locking tuners. The guitar was awesome stock, but I like to tweak things. The Schecter has a neck more like a '59 Les Paul, somewhat slimmer than the PRS. The top is arched which I really like and comes in Quilt maple. It comes with EMG's already that are coil tapable. Very nice single coil clean tones, then kick in the humbucker mode for some fatter tones. Both are excellent in build quality. Fretwork is spot on. Mine are tuned stock in B-B.

What type of music do you play? The sound samples i have heard from them, on you tube, seem to point in a metalish way. I am looking to play blues, and some slide.

Would you say the prs neck is more like a bass neck, wide as well?

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Old November 11th, 2011, 07:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Maybe look at one of these, the DeArmond Bajo Jet, based on the old Guild S-200 Thunderbird design. They come up secondhand from time to time. And you get three DeArmond single coil pickups — OK, they're 2k ceramics, but still sound real twangy.

www.guitargeek.com/dearmond-bajo-jet-baritone/
Thanks! I will search them out as well. A lot of my decision, unfortunately, has to do with price. In this case, less is more.

Have you played them?
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"Have you played them?"

Got one! I did a trade-in about eight years ago — and I'm ashamed to say that at first I just thought of it as an easy way to get hold of some Dearmond pickups. But I sort of grew attached to it and left it unmolested.

It obviously has a long scale, making some chord shapes hard work (or impossible if, like me, you don't have very long fingers) although that must apply to most baritones. But the neck itself is very playable and the action is low right up the fingerboard. I have it strung B to B using Danelectro baritone strings — which are just long enough to reach the G and D tuners.

It took a while to understand how the twin three-way toggle switches controlled three pickups. It would seem that one toggle works like a conventional three-way on the neck and bridge pickups, while the other one switches the middle pickup in or out — possibly!

The only trouble is it never gets played. I'm waiting for the band I'm in to get Galveston on the set list.
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Thanks! I am looking into them, checking flea bay and CL
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What type of music do you play? The sound samples i have heard from them, on you tube, seem to point in a metalish way. I am looking to play blues, and some slide.

Would you say the prs neck is more like a bass neck, wide as well?

Thanks for the info!
Blues, folk rock, surf and jazz. Although, I can get a cool modern metal sound going with my Marshall cranked up.

The neck would be more like a Fender Jazz Bass, but it's very much a guitar neck. Almost identical to my '59 Les Paul's.
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Get a Bass VI and you'll never go back. I'll sell you mine for $8,000. Actually, the most satisfactory baritone I ever owned was a Jaguar Baritone Custom. The tension on the low E was a bit low but overall it was a great baritone guitar. Were I to ever build a baritone it would be a Bass VI style neck, body and scale-length, but I'd use a stop-bar tailpiece like the Jag' bari'.
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Get a Bass VI and you'll never go back. I'll sell you mine for $8,000. Actually, the most satisfactory baritone I ever owned was a Jaguar Baritone Custom. The tension on the low E was a bit low but overall it was a great baritone guitar. Were I to ever build a baritone it would be a Bass VI style neck, body and scale-length, but I'd use a stop-bar tailpiece like the Jag' bari'.
As usual, you hit the spot. Let me see if I got $8000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Nope, don't got it. I have read about the fender vI, and the more i read, the harder it gets. I wanted to get a bari and play it, cause i know it has a sound that is calling me. I know i don't have a lot of cash, but these darn forums, always give me the info i crave, and set me in other directions. I thought i just read a forum from 2009, in it it said you were having one built from fender? or am i mistaken?
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Have now made a pool of the gretsch g5265, danelectro wild thing, and eastwood side jack. every review has pros and cons of each, but almost every time, people say, "its a great guitar, all i had to do was change the pickup, change the bridge, change the paint, change the moisture level of the cats letterbox, and it sounded great. " Wish i had the cash to just go top end, but thats not reality. Just want to play some low down blues, some slide, and maybe even some Dead basset stuff while playing chords as well. Too much to ask?

I have heard horror stories about the dan's, as in you get what you pay for. Is this true? I am willing to settle for a less expensive guitar, if it plays well, and doesn't break in two weeks.
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No luck finding the Dearmond Bajo, flea bay or elsewhere.
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Sorry, just missed selling you my Eastwood Sidejack Baritone Deluxe. I sold it three weeks ago. Hated to do it but wasnt using it and wanted something else.

Can say that it was a great guitar. A little heavy but solid. Great twang from the P90s and whammy (Burns) too. Newer version has Jaguar trem.

Tuned B to B but have read that it can handle Bass VI strings and E to E. nice guitar for low $. Great metallic blue finish and came set up nicely. Get case from them as it doesn't fit standard cases and their case is good and only $99

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Sorry, just missed selling you my Eastwood Sidejack Baritone Deluxe. I sold it three weeks ago. Hated to do it but wasnt using it and wanted something else.

Can say that it was a great guitar. A little heavy but solid. Great twang from the P90s and whammy (Burns) too. Newer version has Jaguar trem.

Tuned B to B but have read that it can handle Bass VI strings and E to E. nice guitar for low $. Great metallic blue finish and came set up nicely. Get case from them as it doesn't fit standard cases and their case is good and only $99

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thanks, your the first to chime in on it. I like the blue. How was it as far as bass sounds, could you mimic a bass if you put it through a bass amp? I am considering putting it through my 59 baseman reissue, then chaining it to my actual bass amp, to get both ends of the spectrum, and use it as a bass and chordy rhythm simultaneously. any thoughts?
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Have someone that might want to trade my ibanez sr480 bass for his fender squire subsonic. Anyone familiar with that one? Very little info on line about it. Looks like the few that did have it, used it for "shredding" or melodic metal music. The squire name makes me hesitant, as i have seen to many that are poorly built.
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I think i need to save up and just get the one i really want, and not jump at the first offer i get.
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I think that's a good call; you want the Gretsch, get the Gretsch
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Might be an eastwood, like clint! Let me see what i can sell ogg, i already sold a kidney to get the hotrod, a few pints of blood for the bassman reissue, the kids hamsters were sold to science{told them the hamster fairy recruited them for their army} to get the Brain, all i got left is a few magic pieces of corn feed, it makes reindeer fly. {You need to be old to figure out where that came from}, Got a banjo, but i know as soon as i sell that, i will need a banjo to record some song.

I will keep y'all posted, and thanks for the input.
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How is the guitar building going?
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MOP block inlays are being cut & shaped as we speak, and the first coats of red should be on tomorrow or the day after
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