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Old December 31st, 2010, 06:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Jet Firebird

Over the last couple of years I've sold off most of my Gretsches. Got the bug again and on an impulse picked up a 6131 Firebird on e-bay. It was advertised as purchased new in 2000 so I didn't give much thought to the year it was made. Busy time of year so I finally got around to looking at the serial number. It's an 89. Darn near mint condition. Once I polish it, it will be pretty close.

The question is, is it a good thing that it's an 89? I understand the different Gretsch "eras" but can someone break it down briefly? What are the real or percieved differences? Also, how does it's age matter? 21 YO vs. new.

I have a clue but it's not clear.

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Old December 31st, 2010, 09:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Your Firebird is a preFMIC model. The transition period is around 2003.
PreFMIC Jets are supposed to have less routing and are usually heavier than more recent models. A Filtertron equipped guitar will have ceramic magnets whereas the more recent models have alnico magnets. You may also have the worst ever (in my opinion) roller bearing bridge on that guitar. Some also complain about the wiring and the pots in the guitar. Also, if you are a stickler for historical accuracy, preFMIC Gretschs tend not to follow the exact design parameters (body shape, headstock design, fret inlays, etc.) of the vintage originals.
I have a 1997 Red Sparkle Jet. It is fairly heavy for a Jet weighing in a 8.5 lbs. but reasonable beside my 10lb+ Les Paul. Some people find the ceramic pickups 'harsh' or 'weak' but I find that they compare pretty favorably with the alnico pickups (I have a few other FMIC Gretschs as well). They are hotter than regular alnico Filtertrons so comparisons are not so easy to do nor so accurate.
If you have the pictured rolller bearing, swap it out before you make any other changes. In my experience, it DID make the pickups sound thin and weak.
My Jet has tiny, cheap looking pots but neither they, nor the switches or wiring have given me any problems.
Usually, in the used market, preFMIC guitars will have a lower value than more recent models. But MY Jet (except for the body weight) is every bit as fantastic as my other Gretsch guitars. It is very well built and a pleasure to play.


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Old December 31st, 2010, 10:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have a pre-fender and a current production duo jet, both with filtertrons. The weight difference is quite noticeable. The per-fender one has a 2-piece neck with a stipe along the entire length where it is joined. All told, they are both quality guitars. I think the differences are mostly aesthetic, both visually and sonically. I would not dissuade anyone from buying a pre-fender model.

I put a comparison of the two on youtube:
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Old January 1st, 2011, 09:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks guys much clearer now.
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Old January 1st, 2011, 11:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Get your GreTscH one of these:

http://www.gretsch-talk.com/forum/co...m-bridges.html

Here's another G-T Thread of interest:

http://www.gretsch-talk.com/forum/co...on-briges.html

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Old January 1st, 2011, 11:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I love the larger headstock on the pre-FMIC jets, even if they're not historically accurate.
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Old January 1st, 2011, 11:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I love the larger headstock on the pre-FMIC jets, even if they're not historically accurate.
It seems to me that the larger headstock on the pre-FMIC Jets are Perfectly Historically Accurate to the pre-FMIC Jets!

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