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September 14th, 2009, 04:21 AM
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Electromatic
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crimson flyer 6020 no co. records. Problems?
just got this triangle hole nice acoustic electric in new condition. one owner
got 1997 for $1400. no info or records at fender/gretsch scottsdale. was it considered a bad product? another gretsch 12 string flattop used same 6020
number. seems to be all solid woods very nicely built and finished, fine performance. Any info about it much appreciated.
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September 14th, 2009, 08:35 AM
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Post some pictures please!! oh by the way WELCOME!!!!!
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September 14th, 2009, 08:49 AM
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Yep, welcome to the forum and yep post some pictures!
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September 14th, 2009, 08:55 AM
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Welcome! Enjoy yourself here, I know I do.
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September 14th, 2009, 09:17 AM
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Welcome to GT Art! 
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September 16th, 2009, 05:15 AM
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Electromatic
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welcomes for artb
thanks for welcomes. need to sort out why photo submissions attempts indicate invalid file. artb
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September 16th, 2009, 05:18 AM
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what filetype is it? the easiest way is to upload it to imageshack or tinypic or something, and then copy it's URL & press the  button in a new post window
Regarding not being able to find info on your Gretsch, there's a big black hole regarding the pre-fender Gretsches.. it's hard to find anything on most models pre-2003, so it's not that your model was a dud or anything, it just falls into the general hole.
Can't wait to see the pics 
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September 16th, 2009, 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by artb
just got this triangle hole nice acoustic electric in new condition. one owner
got 1997 for $1400. no info or records at fender/gretsch scottsdale. was it considered a bad product? another gretsch 12 string flattop used same 6020
number. seems to be all solid woods very nicely built and finished, fine performance. Any info about it much appreciated.
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The Crimson Flyer (in red) and Night Bird (in blue) were strange models sold in the 90s. They're flat top true acoustic guitars with a magnetic pickup in the soundhole. Some came with a Bigsby (!) Not many were sold so far as I can tell. I have a Night Bird with Bigsby (although it'll be for sale soon.) Nice sounding guitar, either acoustically or electrically. They're listed in the Blue Book of Acoustic Guitars. I've never seen a Crimson Flyer for sale and only 2 Night Birds.
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September 16th, 2009, 06:17 PM
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September 16th, 2009, 08:11 PM
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Wow, that's beautiful drmilktruck! never seen one before 
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September 16th, 2009, 08:17 PM
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Wow! I've never seen a Bigsby on an acoustic before. Does it work well?
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September 17th, 2009, 12:00 AM
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Electromatic
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artb
thanks for comments about photos and flyer. nice to see the blue version. identical
except for color and minor decoration details. serial number of red one 92020-29
i guess 29th in 1992. price of blue? paid $850 for like new red. japan built?
would prefer not to have bigsby but seems to function nicely. will try photo
again.
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September 17th, 2009, 05:56 AM
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Electromatic
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artb
correct serial number for crimson flyer 921020v-29 which is 29th built jan. 1992
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September 17th, 2009, 06:12 AM
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Electromatic
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artb
How does China musical instrument manufacturer sell direct White Falcon
identified by exact model number G6136T-LTV for $360. see www. madeinchina.com (product catalog)
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September 17th, 2009, 06:46 AM
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Quote:
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Wow! I've never seen a Bigsby on an acoustic before. Does it work well?
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Yes, it does, surprisingly. Sounds unusual at first to strum a nice acoustic chord and then add the little wiggle at the end but it's a neat effect.
This one's a 1991.
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September 17th, 2009, 08:53 AM
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How does China musical instrument manufacturer sell direct White Falcon
identified by exact model number G6136T-LTV for $360. see www. madeinchina.com (product catalog)
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It's a thieving rip-off. A fake. A trademark violation. Wanna buy a Rolex watch for $50?
That's how.
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September 17th, 2009, 09:21 AM
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Quote:
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It's a thieving rip-off. A fake. A trademark violation. Wanna buy a Rolex watch for $50?
That's how.
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*nods* sad but true, someone should report them & sic the FMIC lawyers on em.. 
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September 17th, 2009, 03:36 PM
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Country Gent
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Quote:
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correct serial number for crimson flyer 921020v-29 which is 29th built jan. 1992
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The Crimson Flyer has a chestnut back and sides with spruce top, the Night Bird has maple back and sides.
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September 22nd, 2009, 07:05 PM
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Electromatic
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appreciate comments. finally got a couple of photos into photo album listing.
tried 7 times. 3 photos survived. wonder what i did wrong.
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September 22nd, 2009, 07:38 PM
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Dr. that Night Bird is cool! That's modded with the pickup and Bigsby, not factory, right? What do you do about feedback? Could stuff it with cotton.... Hmmmm?...
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