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Old February 10th, 2011, 04:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Guitar Cables Braided OFC Copper/Gold Connectors

What if I told you that you can buy a guitar cable made from braided pure copper with the highest quality gold plated connectors for $8.95

Check out South Creek Audio's website. It will explain all about cables and you can purchase them online from the site. Don't forget to check the reviews while you are there! SouthCreekAudio.com


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Old February 10th, 2011, 04:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum RustyPlayer!
Thanks for the link.

What if I told you that you can buy a guitar cable made from pure gold.
$6000 for 10ft cable.
Check this thread.
Think your suggestion might be a more popular choice.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 04:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow that's crazy expensive! Tops anything I've seen.
Thanks DrewGrass
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Old February 10th, 2011, 05:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think we're all guilty of using the $5.00 cable at one time or another Caeman.
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Old March 6th, 2011, 11:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Have you (South Creek Audio) considered making (amp/cab) speaker cable?
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Hi Rusty, welcome to the forum are you the owner of this company or just a fan? What rig are you runnin your cables through?
more questionz..
I want to know what the capacitance stats are on the cable and a better explanation of the connectors being used. Using gold electroplating on the cable ends/jack is of no consequence if the input connects of a given amp or pedal are not gold throughout the signal chain.

I've been making my own cables lately after researching that Lava cables has been using Canare and Neutrik and charge $$. You can get really great quality low capacitance cable like Canare GS-6 only runs about a 80cents a foot but the connects add to the price and usually add $10 for Neutrik NP2RX-au-silent to the price of a cable, plus the labor to properly put it together.
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Old March 7th, 2011, 07:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Guys,
Yes we do plan on expanding to carry all types of cables Tricone and thanks for your intrest.
TV, you are correct on many points. Let me start by telling you a little about me. First you have to understand that I am one of you. An average musician playing guitar in a band that plays out a couple times a month. We were lucky enough to pick up Mikes Hard Lemonade as a sponsor (Hello Drew, yes I did just give you a plug) which in turn landed us a few gigs at some well known events. But for the most part you’ll find us at local bars and clubs. I don’t play any better than most guitarists out there and it’s not my full time job.
Like most guitarists on a budget, the cables I used were purchased at a national retail store and held up pretty well to having 100 pound speaker cabinets rolled over them. But there was this one cable one night that just pissed me off so bad. It got me thinking about how much it really costs to make a good cable. For the next 6 months I started comparing cables and contacting manufacturers. I mean you could rip the cord out of your lamp, solder 2 connectors on it and have sound come out your amp. I found a few things that really did make the big name cables superior to most and decided to see if I could create a cable with those qualities any cheaper.
The most important factor is the material. Pure copper is the best choice. It has the highest conductive properties next to silver. 97.6% to be exact. I don’t mean a layer of copper coating a core of aluminum (CCA) or coating a core of steel (CCS). The idea is because the line level is so low that you want to keep the signal as true to the source as possible.
The shield wire was next. Any interference that could disrupt that low signal needed to be blocked. A spiral shield was most commonly used because it is the easiest to terminate with connectors. You just unwind and solder. But like trying to hold water in your hands, unless you interlock your fingers together, it will leak out. That’s why a braided shield was far superior. Not just any braid though, it had to be made of many more finer strands. So we went from 64 to 96 strands.
You are right about the gold connectors not improving the signal TV, but the connectors are coated with gold to prevent them from corroding.
The jacket needed to be heavy so that 100 pound speaker cabinet wouldn’t piss me off again. We decided on a 7mm.OD made from PVC. Because we all hate trying to untangle that milk crate of knotted cables, we designed a heavy duty Velcro cable tie to wrap them up with.
So now we had the design we just needed to find a manufacturer. The cheapest quote we received was for the 10 foot guitar cable and came in at $17.85 per cable. That was our cost before setup fees or shipping. Not too bad but we could do better. We decided to check overseas for a supplier that would manufacture the cables to our specs. Let me tell you dealing with US Customs is no easy task.
Bottom line is we were able to have the guitar cables manufactured shipped 7000 miles in a container, sent through an xray (to check for explosives I guess) and up for sale on the web site for far less.
If we had listed them for sale at $35.00 I don’t think people would question the quality and time that was invested in the manufacturing. However, we decided to use the approach that making less profit per cable and selling many more cables would be better for everyone. We get more customers and you get a better price.
We can honestly say musicians are starting to recognize the name South Creek Audio as something associated with extremely affordable and reliable microphone and guitar cables. I know this because we have 100% feedback on our sales and customers tend to contact manufacturers when they are dissatisfied not to say thank you.
I forgot to mention we did all this in the worst economy most of us have ever seen.

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Old March 7th, 2011, 07:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I heartily endorse Bill Lawrence cables and connectors, cleaned up my board and noise.
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Old March 7th, 2011, 10:02 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yes we do plan on expanding to carry all types of cables Tricone and thanks for your interest.


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And what about speaker cables . . ?
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Old March 7th, 2011, 12:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm sorry Tricone, we do have plans for speaker wire but it will be some time before you see it. As you probably know, the wire used in any application where the signal has been amplified is totally different. Mainly because you don't have to worry about signal loss as much as burning down your house from lack of insulation. I actually tested a speaker wire with 1/4 inch TS connectors that were hollow. It amazes me what you'll find when you look close.
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Old March 7th, 2011, 04:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Are you going to offer 30' guitar
cables ?

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Old March 7th, 2011, 05:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hey Rusty, what kind of Gretsch guitar you rockin in your rig? hope you hang out with us and this isnt just a drive by.

I found by entering this statement you posted
"What if I told you that you can buy a guitar cable made from braided pure copper with the highest quality gold plated connectors for $8.95 "

on google you've hit most every forum out there including the comments sections in musiciansfriend for spam.

kudos on the advertising technique!
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Old March 7th, 2011, 05:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Caeman is right Raspy, once you get past 20 feet with any cable (some people argue its 18 feet) the signal will start to decay. So we don't have any plans for 30 footers. Everyone uses different setups. I personally use 2-10 ft cables. one from the guitar to my effects pedal and one from there to the amp. I have used a 20 ft cable from the amp to the effects pedal on larger stages when there is a lot of space between me and the back line with no trouble at all but other than that, with the smaller spaces I just start tripping over the extra cable. Caeman the strait TS to angled TS cables are being made now.
You guys are great! Thanks for the interest in our cables. I don't mean to be long winded with my replies.
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The reason I ask is because my
amps are in the living room, and
I sometimes sit at my computer,
which is in my dining room, 25'
away.

If I used pedals, I would go the with
a 20', and a 10'.

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Old March 7th, 2011, 06:05 PM   #15 (permalink)
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This is where I hang my head in shame TV. I play an alpine white Epiphone custom. In fact the picture of the band on our website was taken at The Stone Pony and that's me on the left next to the keys. So now It's my turn to pick your brains. Is there a particular Gretsch you would suggest?

The 20' and 10' will work great if you use a stomp tuner between them too Raspy
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What if I told you that you can buy a guitar cable made from braided pure copper with the highest quality gold plated connectors for $8.95

Check out South Creek Audio's website. It will explain all about cables and you can purchase them online from the site. Don't forget to check the reviews while you are there! SouthCreekAudio.com


What if I told you that you got me? I just ordered a 10' and 20' for $23.10 shipped. Money back guarantee how can I lose? I was just going to buy another planet waves 10 footer and then you posted.
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What if I told you that you got me? I just ordered a 10' and 20' for $23.10 shipped. Money back guarantee how can I lose? I was just going to buy another planet waves 10 footer and then you posted.
Please post your review when you get it. I'd be most interested.
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Old March 7th, 2011, 07:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Thank you RC! You should receive them in 2 or 3 days. Like Audept said, when you get them post your review and tell your friends.
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Aw man, I'd take 2 20 footers if you had on option for angles on both ends. I like an angled for the guitar, and my pedal board has top mounted jacks.

Wireless setups are such a love/hate deal for me, I ended up getting rid of mine years ago. You'll lose more high end clarity out of your amp sitting it next to a drumkit in your average venue than you ever would using 2 25 foot cables.

Recording, however, is a different story.
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Hello Rusty Player,

TV asked what is the capacitance of the cable you are specifying and I don't believe we saw an answer.

Are the connectors Neutrik or is your assembler using locally sourced connectors?
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