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ABC Amp Switch
de Lisle ABC Amp Switch
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We've developed a new product in collaboration with Chris Tapp of the Colds Stares, a band that recently made news by winning the Ambassadors of Rock - Nashville sponsored by the Hard Rock.
More than a simple signal splitter, the de Lisle ABC Amp Switch allows the player to safely use one, two or three amps at a time without introducing ground loop hum. So, don't defeat the safety grounds on your amps! Play it safe with the de Lisle ABC Amp Switch. It features one input, one direct out, and two transformer-isolated outputs. Runs off a single 9v battery or DC adapter (not included).
• Single Input
• Direct Out (1)
• Buffered, Transformer Isolated Outputs (2)
• DC Jack (2.1MM/5.5MM)
• Multi-colored LED Indicators
• Heavy-Duty Aluminum Case
• Rubber Feet
• Handwired
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ABC Pedal: $119.00 + Shipping
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April 27th, 2010, 10:38 AM
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Nice! I've actually been thinking about something like this, I was looking at the Morley ABC thing, but I have a few friends that have tried them and said they were junk. Loud pops with switching and tons of hum etc. Great to see someone doing this right.
My only question, why 3 switches if one is a direct out? Is it still switchable? Sorry if this is a dumb question, in my live sound world, direct out means unaffected by controls.
This is definitely on my short list man!
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April 27th, 2010, 12:49 PM
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Thanks, Ripley!
The Morley pedal has one input jack connected to three output jacks with no isolation. As your friends noted, this can result in a ground loop. That, as well as signal loss, was the problem with Chris' old pedal we were trying resolve.
Here's what we mean by direct out in this case: The first output goes directly from the guitar input to one amp; it passes straight through the ABC switch prior to any buffers, transformers, etc. All the outputs are switched, so any combination can be used without ground loop noise...or switch pops 
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April 27th, 2010, 01:08 PM
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Cool. That's a fair price, too. I've got a small Radial switcher but I've not used it yet.
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Oh No, looks like another must have here from Jer. Looks like a very nicely engineered switching system.
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Awesome. I've been looking at more realisticly priced Lehles and Framptones.
Ok I went up, down, left and right with the website. Where do I place the order?
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sounds like a great idea and the price is downright friendly.
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April 27th, 2010, 02:19 PM
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Thank you, gentlemen
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Awesome. I've been looking at more realisticly priced Lehles and Framptones.
Ok I went up, down, left and right with the website. Where do I place the order?
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Ricochet:
Here's a the link. (It's in the amp section for now.)
Then, just click the button to get one on order.

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April 27th, 2010, 02:34 PM
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Tnx Mugsy, guess I didn't scroll down far enough. Anyway, done and paid for. 
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April 28th, 2010, 07:47 AM
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Thanks, Rich. I'll get to work on it.
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May 1st, 2010, 01:07 PM
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Mugsy: I just pushed the button on one and am looking forward to trying this switch out, I have looked at several but did not like what they had to offer.
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May 1st, 2010, 02:00 PM
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Thanks, Wayne. I wired up Rich's board yesterday. I'm waiting on his case to dry before assembly. I should have yours out in about a week.
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May 1st, 2010, 02:22 PM
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Mugsy: That sounds great, I am anxious to give it a try.
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The Morley pedal has one input jack connected to three output jacks with no isolation. As your friends noted, this can result in a ground loop. That, as well as signal loss, was the problem with Chris' old pedal we were trying resolve.
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None of these Morley ampswitchers (ABC, ABY, Tripler etc) are isolated. For the money they are embarassingly barebones...
Maybe it's clever scheme to get you to buy another pedal...
From the ABC-manual:
"Hooking some amps together via a switching device may create Ground Loop
Hum in one or more of the amps. If this occurs, please check out the Ebtech®
Hum X ground filter at www.ebtechaudio.com." 
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May 2nd, 2010, 02:34 PM
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At that price point You should be able to kick Lehle's butt and Framptones all the way back to Europe.
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May 4th, 2010, 08:29 AM
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Rich, your switch is on the way! Pops is next
BTW, the artist that inspired the pedal had some nice things to say about the gear we've made for him: Meet The Cold Stares: Nashville’s Hottest Rock Band
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May 4th, 2010, 08:43 AM
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Good deal, Mugsy and great price. I tried a Whirlwind simple switcher and that's when I learned about ground loop.
Ended up using it for a different function and buying a Lehle. It's nice, but ain't cheap.
When I break down and buy a VOX and Marshall to run with these DRRI's, I'll order one from you.
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May 4th, 2010, 09:50 AM
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Rich, your switch is on the way! Pops is next 
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Tnx Mugsy! 
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Alrighty, I can hardly wait. Thanks mugsy.
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Yeah, very cool sound...and great songs. They have 5 full-length tunes online here: http://www.myspace.com/thecoldstares
They are one of my favorite bands...even when Chris was playing through a Fender 
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May 10th, 2010, 07:53 AM
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You're pedal is shipping today, Pops. I built batch this time, so I'll have a few in stock.
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May 10th, 2010, 08:21 AM
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mugsy: That sounds great, I will have it in plenty of time for the Northwoods Jam. Folk's there can get a preview of your products. My plan is to bring the 15P deLise amp head along also. Thanks for the heads up.
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You're pedal is shipping today, Pops. I built batch this time, so I'll have a few in stock.
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Pops, you'll get your pedal even before me!
My pedal seems to have been hold up at Customs. I think it arrived a few days ago but it's still being sniffled and poked at. 
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Ricochet: Yes I am sure the customs are looking over anything that is electronic in nature as to be sure it is not a terroristic threat.
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Thanks, Ripley!
The Morley pedal has one input jack connected to three output jacks with no isolation. As your friends noted, this can result in a ground loop. That, as well as signal loss, was the problem with Chris' old pedal we were trying resolve.
Here's what we mean by direct out in this case: The first output goes directly from the guitar input to one amp; it passes straight through the ABC switch prior to any buffers, transformers, etc. All the outputs are switched, so any combination can be used without ground loop noise...or switch pops 
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Well done, Mugsy!
It amazes me that big name companies can put out a product, but still not get it right. I think it's awesome that you and your associates took the time to get it right. I really admire that. You're not putting out a product just to put it out. You're putting out something that people need, and something that's made the way it SHOULD be done.
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mugsy: That sounds great, I will have it in plenty of time for the Northwoods Jam. Folk's there can get a preview of your products. My plan is to bring the 15P deLise amp head along also. Thanks for the heads up.
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Thanks, Pops! I appreciate that. You're going to wind up on the payroll one of these days
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Well done, Mugsy!
It amazes me that big name companies can put out a product, but still not get it right. I think it's awesome that you and your associates took the time to get it right. I really admire that. You're not putting out a product just to put it out. You're putting out something that people need, and something that's made the way it SHOULD be done.
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Thanks, CD101. The recognition is much appreciated. I think we have an advantage over larger companies in that regard. I work directly with the customer, and then build it. There's no other channel...and no one else to blame
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Since I've learned about the Cold Stares guitar player running multiple amps at once, it has me curious to try my GSO through both my Gretsch and GK amps at the same time.
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Yeah, it opens up a lot of possibilities--octave pedals, multiple loops, clean/distorted, etc. The sound is very 3D even with similar tones.
In other news, I'm also working with Chris on a fuzz pedal. Features: Hand-wired, true-bypass, controls; edge, range, fuzz, level, limit (mini-toggle), fat (mini-toggle) and internal bias. Runs on a 9VDC battery or adapter (negative tip, so it plays nicely with other pedals.)
I'll send one off to him this week hopefully. Just need to rearrange the layout to better accommodate the battery. It's crowded in there.

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May 11th, 2010, 09:30 AM
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Pops, you'll get your pedal even before me!
My pedal seems to have been hold up at Customs. I think it arrived a few days ago but it's still being sniffled and poked at. 
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Rich, you might contact your local customs/post office branch. We've had one experience where the customs office was waiting for the customer to contact them, instead of the other way around. They just sat on the package for several days.
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Hot dang! The Cold Stares are awesome. Mugsy, I'm glad they're using your equipment!
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My ABC switch arrived today safe and sound by UPS. I gave it a quick demo and it works very well, no noise or popping at all, it is dead quite. This switch is built extremely well, looks like cast aluminum top and bottom with quality parts used inside. I like the indicator lights for each outlet. Good work again mugsy.
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Rich was right...you did get it before him
Thanks, Wayne! I'm glad it arrived in good shape. And thanks for the feedback.
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Some feedback from Chris:
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The de Lisle ABC has resolved all the issues I had with other channel switching boxes. Cleaner view, colored LED's, wider stance, stronger build, better components and NO HUM! And as with the other de Lisle stuff it looks classy and is built like a tank."
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You're fame spreads.
So...ever pondered making an Octave pedal? I want an octave pedal that no one currently makes.
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In certain circles
Not yet. Reverb is next on the list 
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After a week in customs, looks like you should be getting your pedal shortly, Rich.
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May 14th, 2010, 12:15 PM
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Here is my deLise ABC switch at home in the Boss pedal board. I just need one more adapter to hook the Boss power supply to the deLise ABC pedal. The delise AC/DC adapter plug takes a 2.1mm x 5.5mm barrel plug with a negative tip. I have one on the way so all I need to do is swap the barrel end on one of the AC/DC adapter on the Boss cable system and I am good to go. Right now it is on its own 9V batterey power. This unit works very well and is built like a brick "S" house. Very good product and I would highly recommend it if you are in the market for an ABC switch.
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After a week in customs, looks like you should be getting your pedal shortly, Rich.
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Yeah, I noticed it left Customs too! Kinda expected it to arrive today. But tomorrow is fine too. 
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Here is my deLise ABC switch at home in the Boss pedal board. I just need one more adapter to hook the Boss power supply to the deLise ABC pedal. The delise AC/DC adapter plug takes a 2.1mm x 5.5mm barrel plug with a negative tip. I have one on the way so all I need to do is swap the barrel end on one of the AC/DC adapter on the Boss cable system and I am good to go. Right now it is on its own 9V batterey power. This unit works very well and is built like a brick "S" house. Very good product and I would highly recommend it if you are in the market for an ABC switch.
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That pedalboard looks familiar. 
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Hey Jer, It was delivered to my door today. Had to pay an additional 42 bucks Tax & Customs, but it's all mine now.
It certainly is looking like a very slick piece of machinery. Hopefully I can give it a whirl tomorrow. Tnx again!
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$42? Dang! Those customs guys are making out better than me 
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Anything imported into Slovenia is subject to a 35% tax and customs fee; it's probably the same for all EU countries.
For most things, it's still cheaper than buying in a shop.
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Well in fairness, it was a 15 bucks Customs handling fee, the rest is in support of our fine government... 
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