Hey All,

Do this? Not the dobro part although that would be cool! :p But either the first or last third(s)

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New to guitar and so I'm wondering about the ability of guitars to "cover" other guitar tones. To me this is pure telecaster - can any Gretsch cover it? If one could what would it be? Do I just need to eventually buy a tele to go with my ProJet?

If you want to try just watch the video on Youtube - in the description there is a link to both tab and the backing track - it's the "in the style of Troy Cook" ones.

If you are wondering about the song it is from - it is here. Really nice song.

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As an aside I was at a local music store a couple weeks ago and a rep from Roland/Boss was there showing off products and talking about guitar emulation built into Fender Guitars - wild - how long before a Fender sounds like a Gretsch? Here is a link to an article describing it.

http://www.gizmag.com/roland-fender-g5-stratocaster/21189/

-Ed-

That's pure Tele and possibly some compression. Perhaps something with Dyna Sonics would be more twangy like this. But it's going to sound like a Gretsch with Dynas, not a Tele.

only a tele sounds like a tele.. Some teles sound more like teles than others. Love that cut!

Sometimes when i'm messing around with the settings on my amp/pedals i'll play something and it will totally remind me of my old tele, but it's more of a kinda in the ballpark feeling than actually sounding like a tele. That's with my 5129 so i am playing thru single coils and some compression since i've been goin thru the Doug Seven lessons on chicken pickin and all those guys love their compression pedals.

But it still sounds like my Gretsch trying to copy a tele more than an actual tele. Should have never sold it :(

But it still sounds like my Gretsch trying to copy a tele more than an actual tele. Should have never sold it

Did you sell it to get the Gretsch? Totally worth it if so.

But it still sounds like my Gretsch trying to copy a tele more than an actual tele. Should have never sold it

Did you sell it to get the Gretsch? Totally worth it if so.

Got the Gretsch as a Christmas gift from an ex so i sold the Tele to pay bills. Went to the pawn shop where i sold it a while after to see if they still had it, hoping to buy it back but they had gone out of business.

My white Corvette with hilo's (wound a little hotter by Bareknuckle) sounds most excellent, and has elements of that Tele twang, particularly at the bridge. It's a Gretsch Tele!

Gretsch should make a modern Corvette with Hilio's - they sound fantastic.

Marlin.

Here is the deal.

There is alot to a tele sound.

Bolt on neck will sound different than a set neck.

All that metal in the bridge of tele

The scale lenght.

Bottom line..

If a tele sound is what you want, no way, no how will a Gretsch ever sound just like a tele.

I know it sounds ruff.. but it is just the truth.

I would really like to hear what those TV Jones Tele pickups sound like. They make a normal bridge plate that fits the TV Jones pickups, so the only difference between that and a normal tele is the lack of a single coil pickup. I'll bet it has major twang and growl.

Also, there is a "Cabronita" Tele that has TV Jones pickups in it, but there's very little that's "true Tele" about it - the pickups are mounted without any surrounding metal plate. It sounds good, but it's really not a Tele - it's just a convenient/cool/retro body shape to use.

I would really like to hear what those TV Jones Tele pickups sound like. They make a normal bridge plate that fits the TV Jones pickups, so the only difference between that and a normal tele is the lack of a single coil pickup. I'll bet it has major twang and growl.

Also, there is a "Cabronita" Tele that has TV Jones pickups in it, but there's very little that's "true Tele" about it - the pickups are mounted without any surrounding metal plate. It sounds good, but it's really not a Tele - it's just a convenient/cool/retro body shape to use.

My Rutter Canronita tele (with Powertron) has more Les Paul Jr about it than tele. Love that thing, but it needs a Supertron to tame it.

Marlin

Gretsch should make a modern Corvette with Hilio's - they sound fantastic.

I hate you.

I thought I had every Gretsch I ever wanted...

Thanks; thanks a bunch.

:mad:

My 6120N has got some spank to it.....and I like the picker in that video!

I get some very bright Tele-like sounds out of my 6128-TCG. Dynas have plenty of spank. I also have a 6120 N and it's great for Country.

I hate you.

I thought I had every Gretsch I ever wanted...

Thanks; thanks a bunch.

:mad:

Yea, me too. He's a gimp, with his stoopid Corvette addiction....... I'm gonna find out where he lives and push cat poop through his letter box
........um........hang on........

Marlin ;)

My white Corvette with hilo's (wound a little hotter by Bareknuckle) sounds most excellent, and has elements of that Tele twang, particularly at the bridge. It's a Gretsch Tele!

Gretsch should make a modern Corvette with Hilio's - they sound fantastic.

Marlin.

+1 with you : bridge pu is really like a tele !

Hey All,

Do this? Not the dobro part although that would be cool! :p But either the first or last third(s)

GYkM0_sH3bU&feature=relmfu

New to guitar and so I'm wondering about the ability of guitars to "cover" other guitar tones. To me this is pure telecaster - can any Gretsch cover it? If one could what would it be? Do I just need to eventually buy a tele to go with my ProJet?


I tried to... 6120 RHH HS filtertrons, bridge position, master vol down 20%, RC Electronic Delay at 80ms, vox pathfinder R ... recorded by my iphone......

hot water cover (http://soundcloud.com/crabejoss/20120507-countrystyle)

Still rhythm work to do but almost ok, but I need an compressor and a better way to record it.

Sure, you can get closer with Dynas !

Any guitar with single coil in the bridge, with some amp tweaking, and the right picking technique can get CLOSE to a tele sound.
But not quite.
Really only the Tele pickup on a plate, Fender scale length, bolt on neck, and maple fretboard can get the true tele spank. Also the trad Tele neck pickup has its own thing goin to. Im not really a fan of it, but its definately unique.
If you really want that sound, just get a Squier CV 50s Tele and be happy.

The thing is, neither of my Tele's sound like a tele.....

My JA90 has T-Armonds, but it's still not tele sounding, it's Fender/Gretsch sounding.

My Rutters Sugar Pine laCabronita tele (with Powertron) sounds like it's forged from the skeletal remains of a Les Paul Jr. A Fender Les Paul.

When is a tele not a tele. When Mr Marlin owns it.....apparently.

Love 'em though, would never sell them ;)

If I'd wanted a Tele sounding Tele, I'd have bought a tele (if that makes any sense at all).

Marlin

Compressors suck. We all strive for guitars, and pickups with that big Gretsch sound, and valve amps that give is the clean pick, and some dirt when you dig in. My Fender amp has such a HUGE sound, that I can play for hours, just ajusting the pick attack to perfect a note - it feels huge, like it can lift the roof off. Compressors rob all of that away, you might as well play a £50/$80 guitar through a first generation modeling amp. My Joyo Sweet Baby OD pedal is great, but on the border of acceptable compression, any more, and I'd have to sell it off. The EBG and D strings are barely affected, the A and low E are slightly reigned in. Not so good to Filtertrons, but perfect for Gretsch single coils. My hilo's need to be ajusted, they boom on the bass note, but this matters not a jot with the Sweet Baby. I think I paid £30 for this pedal, it's better than OD's I've spend five times more on. Any more compression that that though, is a crime.

Just my wordy opionion......other opinions may apply. Your statutary rights are not affected.

Marlin

My question is : how this tele sound comes from , because if you listen to tele cable fender amp trio, these are not suffisant to get this country classic tele sound. For instence if you listen to other songs from lowa91 (the girl from Utube cover) there are few other songs with a raw tele in an amp, and the final result is far from this "hot water cover".

So what are the effects in the loop of country stars?
I think you can't get rid of a digital delay and a good compressor to shrink the signal and got the percussive effect that tele guitars have naturally but need to be underlined...

But i know nothing about fx and pedals.

Moreover compressors are tricky little things. Could cut your sound, on the other side be used as a OverDrive. As im not very smart with electric, I spent few hours to mix thread gain comp pots to finally found that the right setting could narrow the bass to treble spread (i dont know if im clear).

Actually this narrowed signal could be useful for funk, country, etc.,,

My two cents,,,, they are playing Telecasters and they sound great. My guess is that if they were playing a Gretsch, or any guitar that stayed in tune, they would make it sound great as well. I firmly believe that if you can pick as good as those two, it doesn't matter what they have around their neck.

My two cents,,,, they are playing Telecasters and they sound great. My guess is that if they were playing a Gretsch, or any guitar that stayed in tune, they would make it sound great as well. I firmly believe that if you can pick as good as those two, it doesn't matter what they have around their neck.

Good point. A guitar is a tool for creating sound. Just as there is specialization in hand tools, various types of hammers for instance, there are guitars that are better suited to certain tasks such as a Tele for spanky Country sounds. Nonetheless, a skilled craftsman can get a lot of utility out of a specialized tool. When I was in my late teens and early twenties I nailed shingles onto any number of houses and became quite comfortable using a roofing hatchet. To this day, I use a roofing hatchet as a hammer because I'm comfortable with it.

Likewise, I've owned just about everything except a Ric'. I've had Teles, Strats, an ES-340 (think 335), several Les Pauls, a Gibson Johnny Smith and various other guitars, there's a fairly complete list on my website. Out of all of these I find that a Gretsch with Filtertrons is the tool best suited to my tastes. If I want to Chik'n Pik I use a Gretsch in its most treble configuration and let fly. It's close enough to a Tele sound for my needs.

There's also a big difference between recording and live performance. If I was recording a Country lead part you can bet that I'd use my Dynasonic Jet. If I was playing the same song live I'd use whatever Gretsch I had on stage, probably my 6120-DC or my G6122-1959.

Hey All,

Wow! After 10+ days of no responses I figured I either offended all the Gretsch players on earth or I asked such a stupid question nobody wanted to embarass me and my ignorance....

That said I thought it a reasonable question. Why?

My music tastes cross a number of genres but one of my favorites is country and so much country (as well as other kinds of music) is done with telecasters (think Paisley and Urban today right on back to Don Rich and the Bakersfield sound). So if you want to get that sound - could you do it on a Gretsch? That is what I was wondering.

Also I try to be an equipment minimalist - trying to get the most out of whatever I have. Part of this is knowing or learning what guitar(s) can "cover" what - especially when combined with variable amp possibilities. I admit I was wondering about the possibilities with a corvette.

JSC did a great job on working up a version of the same jam on a 6120 and even given the issues with recording I can still hear the hollow body bass coming through. The teles seem to have more of a - I don't know how to say it - cutting bright spank twang on the highs and even on the low end.

I really want to thank JSC for putting in the effort to give it a whirl - I was really hoping somebody would. Thanks man!

As for different telecasters - from what I can tell Laura (the girl in the video aka iowa91) has a few teles a baja and a John5. From what I can tell they are very different animals - the baja is pure tele the John5 seems to be tele like but with the edges taken off and more lows. She plays the john5 in this video about a minute in.

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Now admittedly it is a different kind of music but I still don't hear a lot of tele spank.

Here is another of her videos with a variety of guitars.

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The baja definitely has the tele "cut" - the john5 is different.

I will likely be looking at a baja or whatever tele gets that sound if no Gretsch can.

Thanks again everyone for the replies!

-Ed-

I firmly believe that if you can pick as good as those two, it doesn't matter what they have around their neck.

Yep..unfortuntalety I suck at it. But slowly learning to chicken pick.

Yep..unfortuntalety I suck at it. But slowly learning to chicken pick.

Chicken picking is fun.. the main issue with a Gretsch and chicken picking will be all the cool behind the nut bends.. a Gretsch doesn't do those very well. But I bet one sounds interesting in a chicken pick situation

Was the question "is there a Gretsch that sounds like a Tele?".
Answer: No, there isn't.

Was the question "is there a Gretsch that sounds like a Tele?".
Answer: No, there isn't.

Thank you..

I tried to say that.. but was overlooked..

.. the main issue with a Gretsch and chicken picking will be all the cool behind the nut bends..

I'd never seen that "behind the nut" thing until looking at the vid below a few months ago. Thought it was very cool. Lars Martin is the name of the player in the video - he can pick the snot out of it, for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFqEfkvIBiY

I'd never seen that "behind the nut" thing until looking at the vid below a few months ago. Thought it was very cool. Lars Martin is the name of the player in the video - he can pick the snot out of it, for sure.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFqEfkvIBiY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFqEfkvIBiY)

You tube

Jason Jordan..

Doug Seven..

Just two kick butt chicken pickers..

There is a reason so many of us Gretsch users also love Teles. They are two fantastic flavors of krrrang and twang.

I'd never seen that "behind the nut" thing until looking at the vid below a few months ago. Thought it was very cool. Lars Martin is the name of the player in the video - he can pick the snot out of it, for sure.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFqEfkvIBiY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFqEfkvIBiY)

That's impressive.

JSC did a great job on working up a version of the same jam on a 6120 and even given the issues with recording I can still hear the hollow body bass coming through. The teles seem to have more of a - I don't know how to say it - cutting bright spank twang on the highs and even on the low end.


No Tx it was a pleasure to work on it ! Ok, I may retry and improve the recording side with my pod xt (but I really never read the user manuel). Question how to configure the pod to be as transparent as possible? Arrgg :mad: pod+pc=headhache...

5 hours later : i give up with the recording seesion with the pod, could not have a true bypass sound with it (or I don't know how).

Hey All,

I wanted to address this directly. It was not overlooked.

Thank you..

I tried to say that.. but was overlooked..

I completely agree that guitar to guitar no guitar can likely fully imitate a tele however in this day and age we have so many effects, amp types and settings that I think it valid to ask if in the entire string of what happens from the finger to ear - is there a Gretsch that can "cover" tele country? I was not thinking purely of guitar to guitar.

In my original post I mentioned the Roland/Fender project - the VG Strat. A bunch of guitars in one. How long before you simply buy the body shape you like and have everything Fender, Gibson, Gretsch you name it in one guitar. Signature sound is not intellectual property as far as I know so one multi-guitar capable guitar through effects and a tube amp - maybe nirvana. But until we get there can a Gretsch come close to covering a tele?

-Ed-