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I've got a loud G-String

PDogga
November 8th, 2011, 06:02 AM
No - I'm not talking about my underpants on this occasion (but all amusing G-String one liners happily accepted here).

My G5120 has TV Classic pups and a Compton SS bridge. I have noticed that when the open G String is played, this note is quite a bit louder than any other note either fretted on the G-String or the other strings played open. This is the case both plugged in and acoustically. This isn't a major ball ache by any means but is starting to annoy me a tad.

Anyone got any ideas why this is louder than the rest?

5120mantis
November 8th, 2011, 06:32 AM
maybe the pole pieces under the string are high than the others.

araT
November 8th, 2011, 06:32 AM
If it were just occuring plugged in I'd suggest you should lower the pole-pieces under the G, but since it's happening acoustically too that isn't the problem...

Try touching the G string behind the bridge after striking a note, does it get quieter? it could be the ghost notes amplifying things.. in which case I'd suggest the felt/grommet solution.

GuitarMojo
November 8th, 2011, 06:59 AM
Different strings may be teh cure. Try a wound 3rd set?

Farmerbrown
November 8th, 2011, 07:41 AM
Definitely try a set with a wound 3rd, I have them on all of my Gretsches. I use either D'Addario EXL 110W or EXL115W, makes a different guitar out of them, the plain G too bright and busy...:D

PDogga
November 8th, 2011, 08:45 AM
Thanks for the suggestions all.
Tara - I should have mentioned that I have added some Grommits behind the bridge a couple of days ago. This has prevented the wolf tones but hasn't made any difference to the increased volume of the G String and yes it is the fact that it happens acoustically that is puzzling.
Farmerbrown - wound G-string - okay that might work - I'll give that a try.
Thanks again.

HypotenusLuvTriangle
November 8th, 2011, 08:56 AM
HOT!!! Pictures or it didn't happen!

araT
November 8th, 2011, 09:01 AM
HOT!!! Pictures or it didn't happen!

Uhhhh...no. I think I've seen enough aussie men in g-string adjacent clothing for one lifetime, if you don't believe me google "Tony Abbott budgie smuggler" (http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/will-abbott-kill-the-curse-of-the-budgie-smuggler-20091202-k53b.html) (and might I point out this will be the next leader of Australia).

D. Spree
November 8th, 2011, 09:29 AM
You could also have one bad string. It can happen - even before you go for a total change or a wound G just change the one string out. I don't know why but on all my guitars the G is the most problematic string - whether its going out of tune or loudness. Something about that frequency.

workknot
November 8th, 2011, 10:20 AM
I found sometimes the G string can be tamed down by stretching it over the full length. Does not always work but worth a try.
Pop's

araT
November 8th, 2011, 01:57 PM
I found sometimes the G string can be tamed down by stretching it over the full length. Does not always work but worth a try.
Pop's

Cool trick Wayne! thanks! :)

methc
November 8th, 2011, 02:11 PM
Shouldn't changing to a wound 3rd be kinda like last resort since that'll possibly mean changes to your pole piece for that string?

Dan C
November 8th, 2011, 02:32 PM
I found sometimes the G string can be tamed down by stretching it over the full length. Does not always work but worth a try.
Pop's

What do you mean by stretching it over the full length? Full length of what, neck? Don't cut the string, just wind it?

araT
November 8th, 2011, 02:44 PM
What do you mean by stretching it over the full length? Full length of what, neck? Don't cut the string, just wind it?

No, tune it up to A or B, then tune it back down to G.

GuitarMojo
November 8th, 2011, 02:52 PM
Different strings may be teh cure. Try a wound 3rd set?

Definitely try a set with a wound 3rd, I have them on all of my Gretsches. I use either D'Addario EXL 110W or EXL115W, makes a different guitar out of them, the plain G too bright and busy...:D

Thanks for the suggestions all.
Tara - I should have mentioned that I have added some Grommits behind the bridge a couple of days ago. This has prevented the wolf tones but hasn't made any difference to the increased volume of the G String and yes it is the fact that it happens acoustically that is puzzling.
Farmerbrown - wound G-string - okay that might work - I'll give that a try.
Thanks again.

Hay what am I, chopped liver? ;)

LATS
November 8th, 2011, 02:59 PM
...(but all amusing G-String one liners happily accepted here)...Well, ya gotta know that neutral, muted colours are just not gonna work for that kinda fashion statement. :p

Guitar string sets with plain 3rd strings are the legacy result of what happened back in the day when players took a standard set of strings (usually 0.12" or 0.13"), tossed the coat-hanger wire low E string, bumped everything one position lower in pitch, and bought a plain string for the now-vacant high E position. Plain G strings just do not balance well across the set. The previous recommendation for D'Addario EXL110W or EXL115W string sets are spot-on.

PDogga
November 8th, 2011, 08:37 PM
Guitar string sets with plain 3rd strings are the legacy result of what happened back in the day when players took a standard set of strings (usually 0.12" or 0.13"), tossed the coat-hanger wire low E string, bumped everything one position lower in pitch, and bought a plain string for the now-vacant high E position. Plain G strings just do not balance well across the set. The previous recommendation for D'Addario EXL110W or EXL115W string sets are spot-on.

Cool - If only GuitarMojo had mentioned the wound G:cool:

Thanks for the opinions advise all. I'll try the streching followed by a wound G.

GuitarMojo
November 8th, 2011, 11:35 PM
Hey, here's an idea - what about a wound G?

Bastages...

LATS
November 9th, 2011, 12:21 AM
Hey, here's an idea - what about a wound G?

Bastages...http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/WestofDeerfoot/Smilies%20and%20Pix/e-rofl02.gif

PDogga
November 9th, 2011, 02:48 AM
Hey, here's an idea - what about a wound G?

Bastages...

:D:D Nice One GM.

6stings
November 9th, 2011, 11:11 AM
Some people call me Gstrings, don't know why!?!?

68GuitarPlayer
November 9th, 2011, 12:20 PM
Some people call me Gstrings, don't know why!?!?

Wouldn't you be Gstings?