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August 17th, 2011, 11:52 AM
I'm itching for a tremolo pedal. Any recommendations? I've been looking at the Boss RT-20 or Electro-Harmonic Worm. All ideas are open, and no price limit (well... reasonably)
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Looking for Tremolo Pedalthemick August 17th, 2011, 11:52 AM I'm itching for a tremolo pedal. Any recommendations? I've been looking at the Boss RT-20 or Electro-Harmonic Worm. All ideas are open, and no price limit (well... reasonably) Thunderball August 17th, 2011, 12:05 PM The RT-20? That's a Leslie simulator pedal. I have one and if you are looking for a replication of that great Leslie sound, you may be disappointed with the RT-20. It gets you something similar, but the lushness and grand feel of the sound of a real Leslie is no way produced by the RT-20. Another fault with that pedal is it offers four different modes and three of them are more or less exactly the same. The overdrive on the pdeal is also useless... Eh, I could go on, but I've learned to use the pedal to my liking: I set that pedal at one tone I found that I liked and never touched the knobs again. It's cool, but I am still waiting for a great Leslie pedal, not a so-so one. Tremolo? I have it in my amps, but I have tried the BOSS tremolo pedal and it is good. josheboy August 17th, 2011, 12:13 PM I have the FLIP Tremelo. Its actually got a tube in it. Sounds excellent and is a really awesome trem, but it does a bit of volume increase when I hit it forcing me to turn down a notch on my guitar. I can live with that, but its a bit of a pain. Also, since it has a tube in it, I cant run battery power. Thats not terrible or anything, its just good to have options. I hear great things about the Malekko Trem. Someday I might try it. Poppatwang August 17th, 2011, 12:23 PM I've had a Nobels tremelo pedal for years. The one in the all purple case. Super bang for buck. Lots of tweakability. Only thing it won't do is a complete on/off trem. Like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/Nobels-TR-X-Tremolo-Guitar-Effect-Pedal-/180708475027?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item2a13108093#ht_500wt_1180 But I don't remember paying near that much. LittleRedRooster August 17th, 2011, 12:38 PM The RT-20? That's a Leslie simulator pedal. I have one and if you are looking for a replication of that great Leslie sound, you may be disappointed with the RT-20. It gets you something similar, but the lushness and grand feel of the sound of a real Leslie is no way produced by the RT-20. Another fault with that pedal is it offers four different modes and three of them are more or less exactly the same. The overdrive on the pdeal is also useless... Eh, I could go on, but I've learned to use the pedal to my liking: I set that pedal at one tone I found that I liked and never touched the knobs again. It's cool, but I am still waiting for a great Leslie pedal, not a so-so one. Tremolo? I have it in my amps, but I have tried the BOSS tremolo pedal and it is good. I have the Strymon Lex pedal for Leslie and I love it. It is very versatile with lots of options and sounds great. I had the BOSS tremolo and hated it and got rid of it. It was very noisy and did not come remotely close to a tube driven tremolo. dinomium August 17th, 2011, 12:39 PM I am having good results with my VooDoo labs trem. I was also considering the Pigtronix but figured that someday I will own a Deluxe Reverb, I decided to save a $100. Look at how grown up decision making resulted in the start of a 100 dollar new amp fund! Somebody please let my wife know soon as possible... BarryMClark August 17th, 2011, 12:59 PM Dunlop/MXR trem maybe? Never heard one but since no one mentioned it, I thought I would. I have used MXR in the past and thought they were of pretty good quality. I wouldn't expect less from the Trem' pedal. 5120mantis August 17th, 2011, 01:51 PM i have a danelectro cool cat, and it's a great trem for $40.oo or so, i also recomend the voodoo lab tremolo or the Electro Harmonix Stereo Pulsar Tremolo Pedal . (im a fan of the EH stuff.) DevilYouKnow August 17th, 2011, 02:09 PM Fulltone Supa Trem gets my vote. That said, I use the Malekko. For $100 it can't be beat. And if you don't use it all the time, it doesn't waste space. Just doesn't get square if you need that. Boss TR2 is great too. Try to find a used Keeley modded one. Can't be beat. TV the Wired Turtle August 17th, 2011, 02:18 PM Youre a worship leader.. you need tremelo that wont confuse the volunteer help.. especially the drummer. You dont want your volume dropping or boosting when you turn the tremelo one because youre job is to lead the congregation and keep things as transparent on stage as possible to keep the focus of the event.. At the same time you want something that is quickly intuitive as you watch both the congregation, your worship team, the powerpoint presentation while keeping your eye on your lead sheets with your face in the microphone ALL the while being able to look quickly at your feet to manipulate your pedal.... I have had so many MANY good sounding tremelos and yes I own a blackface vibrochamp so I know good fender trem and I like vox trem... the Fulltone Supatrem is your pedal.. it has shallow mode and deep mode, it has a speed control and its wide thin design with big knobs is meant to sit at the front edge of your pedal board so you CAN quickly look down and work it. get one, you are employed as a live musician this is made for live stage work... if you hate it, I'll give you my wholesale price on an EH http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/FulltonesupatremBig.jpg http://youtu.be/-RZXr9rFkz8 ps. the EHX PULSAR is seriously cool and crazy, I loved mine but one false move and the lush vintage magnatone trem has become a pixal ring modulator. :) I had to sell it Drewgrass August 17th, 2011, 02:19 PM I use an Electro Harmonix Stereo Pulsar (http://www.ehx.com/products/stereo-pulsar). Good tremolo plus a touch of EHX quirkiness thrown in if you want it. tremelo68 August 17th, 2011, 03:09 PM I have the Dunlop Stereo Tremolo (older wide body version), the EH Pulsar, and the Fulltone Supa-Trem. I love tremolo, in case you didn't get that by my name (purposely misspelled). The Dunlop was AWESOME before it died. Got it wet in a little flood and it has not worked since and I haven't had the time to get it looked at. I thought it sounded very good in stereo. The Pulsar is cool for crazy stuff, but like Tavo said, tough to get the great classic sounds and keep it there. Mine is for sale cheap if anyone is interested. I just got the Supa-Trem (tax free weekend last weekend) and it is by far the best one so far. Does NOT effect volume at all. Well, aside from it being volume modulation effect! ;) What I mean is that your overall level does not drop with this. And, it has an internal pot to give slight boost if you like. The Soft/Hard switch is sweet. Dial up your nice normal tremolo on soft and then hit hard and you get super throbbing at same speed. The Speed button allows you to have two speeds to switch between. Also nice. The knobs are Rate and Mix. Self explanatory. However, a cool use not meant in the design originally: set it to Hard, then drop the mix to the level you like for a normal tremolo. Switch back to Soft and you have the preamp of the pedal but no tremolo. Makes it a nice little preamp (or boost if you raise the internal pot). I like it a lot. I have several amps with tremolo built in but am lately playing a Vox AC15H1TV and that comes with no reverb or trem. So, I needed another pedal. There's my justification right there. ;) Right, we all NEED justifications for our G.A.S. Anyway, my vote goes to Supa-Trem, though it is a little costlier than others. Honorary Mention: Swamp-Thang. A bandmate has that and it sounds great too and is comparable in price to Supa-Trem. razor August 17th, 2011, 03:40 PM I have a great Trem on my '65 Ampeg Reverberocket, but for hardcore Trem, (think Link Wray's Rumble), I use a Seymour Duncan Shape Shifter. Very versatile. http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/stompboxes/sfx07_shape_shi/ themick August 17th, 2011, 03:43 PM The Supa-Trem sounds like what I'm looking for. Wish there was one close I could try out. Woof August 17th, 2011, 04:10 PM I use a "Swamp Thang" Click Me (http://www.monstereffects.com/swamp2.html) Pretty solid pedal IMO :cool: XzaQNycKg2A TV the Wired Turtle August 17th, 2011, 04:21 PM The Supa-Trem sounds like what I'm looking for. Wish there was one close I could try out. buy it from musiciansfriend.com you have 45 days to fool with it.. also there is an internal trimpot to adjust unity gain/bypass. $186 with free ship http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/fulltone-supa-trem-tremolo-guitar-effects-pedal Fox Rox August 17th, 2011, 06:26 PM Here is another vote for the Supa-Trem. It has a lot variety and sounds great. I also have an EBS Trem which is nice in stereo through 2 amps. cookedbutok August 17th, 2011, 06:50 PM Empress Red Witch Medusa Tremolo/chorus for some dual functionality when the new Bethel Live or Hillsong United song isn't calling for a hardcore tremolo. ...and it's on HelloMusic for $250 right now. Which, is a deal. Also, Empress makes a tap tempo Tremelo which looks pretty sweet. Or, you could go the JHS route. I've played that one (Honeycomb, I think it's called). Very good Tremelo. My vote is for the Medusa though. getbent August 17th, 2011, 06:59 PM demeter dinomium August 17th, 2011, 08:22 PM Empress Red Witch Medusa Tremolo/chorus for some dual functionality when the new Bethel Live or Hillsong United song isn't calling for a hardcore tremolo. ...and it's on HelloMusic for $250 right now. Which, is a deal. Also, Empress makes a tap tempo Tremelo which looks pretty sweet. Or, you could go the JHS route. I've played that one (Honeycomb, I think it's called). Very good Tremelo. My vote is for the Medusa though. That is a deal, $100 bux off Pro Guitar... themick August 17th, 2011, 09:54 PM That looks like a sweet deal. Sounds nice on the Youtube videos as well. falzoony August 17th, 2011, 10:45 PM I've spoken about it before on here but I've got the Tortuga Martini. It's a chorus/vib pedal and I'm really digging the sound although I think you could get something a bit more versatile. However it's one of the coolest looking pedals around. bubblyah August 17th, 2011, 11:14 PM +1 for Supa-Trem TV the Wired Turtle August 18th, 2011, 02:33 AM the newer Supa-trems have 2 trims useful trim pots. One sets the boost/unity gain when the effect is engaged, the other sets the wave shape of the *soft* trem. A side benefit is that if you set the "hard mode" to a softer trem then when you stomp it out of that mode you still get a signal booster if you set the internal trim pot higher than unity gain. A really versatile box made here in california quite literally. themick August 20th, 2011, 09:13 AM I should be placing an order for a Supa-Trem in the next couple of days. I'm pretty excited about it. Handley August 20th, 2011, 09:21 AM +1 more for the Supa-Trem. I've used mine for years now (I'm also a worship leader) and it's been the perfect fit. themick August 20th, 2011, 01:57 PM Now before I go and buy this, I was curious if there are any 'homegrown' Tremolo pedals? You know, like someone that makes pedals from their own shop as opposed to in a factory. TV the Wired Turtle August 20th, 2011, 02:11 PM Now before I go and buy this, I was curious if there are any 'homegrown' Tremolo pedals? You know, like someone that makes pedals from their own shop as opposed to in a factory. Fulltone builds his pedals in a rennovated old house in los angeles using a handful of employees.. He doesnt have a factory. This is a pro operation though no mistake about that, definitely not "homegrown" dude working at the back of his garage in the heat and the sweat till 2am every day. :) ps.. i do like this one Rockett Pedals Josh Smith Tremolo Guitar Pedal - YouTube whtfalcon777 August 20th, 2011, 02:17 PM Wow...that might make me want one also....sounds good,bro themick August 20th, 2011, 03:30 PM Fulltone builds his pedals in a rennovated old house in los angeles using a handful of employees.. He doesnt have a factory. This is a pro operation though no mistake about that, definitely not "homegrown" dude working at the back of his garage in the heat and the sweat till 2am every day. :) ps.. i do like this one Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE3noJqc_N8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE3noJqc_N8) Now I'm torn... TV the Wired Turtle August 20th, 2011, 03:51 PM Now I'm torn... Well like I said in the first post there are many many tremelo pedals that do very cool things. the Pulsar is insane with frequency modulation type pulsing, stutter trem that is like a helicopter on ludes,etc.. but the application is apparantly sides towards live performance with you as a worship leader doing christian top 40 worship tunes and thus the things I mentioned are tantamount, correct? IF not..heck boy get the crazy crap its fun!! :) ..but again at the end of the day when I'm playing and I need tremelo, I need vintage fender meets vox with intuitive controls I can run with my feet while I'm singing. Its never failed me while the pulsar has embarrassed the hell out of me in a tune that needs a slow vintage fender throb, as it instead spewed out crack head chipmunk stutter at warp speed just because I bumped the wrong knob. good laughs of course.. ps. if all I ever needed was warm dark medium wet trem as a slide blues guy.. this gets my vote (and I still might get one anyway cuz you gave me gas and I'm an idiot for lusting it when the supa-trem is all I need) Monster Effects Swamp Thang Tremolo - YouTube pilgrim August 20th, 2011, 04:33 PM Youre a worship leader.. you need tremelo that wont confuse the volunteer help.. especially the drummer. You dont want your volume dropping or boosting when you turn the tremelo one because youre job is to lead the congregation and keep things as transparent on stage as possible to keep the focus of the event.. At the same time you want something that is quickly intuitive as you watch both the congregation, your worship team, the powerpoint presentation while keeping your eye on your lead sheets with your face in the microphone ALL the while being able to look quickly at your feet to manipulate your pedal.... I have had so many MANY good sounding tremelos and yes I own a blackface vibrochamp so I know good fender trem and I like vox trem... the Fulltone Supatrem is your pedal.. it has shallow mode and deep mode, it has a speed control and its wide thin design with big knobs is meant to sit at the front edge of your pedal board so you CAN quickly look down and work it. get one, you are employed as a live musician this is made for live stage work... if you hate it, I'll give you my wholesale price on an EH http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/FulltonesupatremBig.jpg http://youtu.be/-RZXr9rFkz8 ps. the EHX PULSAR is seriously cool and crazy, I loved mine but one false move and the lush vintage magnatone trem has become a pixal ring modulator. :) I had to sell it Tried them all this is the one. FALCONLOVER42 August 20th, 2011, 11:26 PM I just recently did the search for s good trem pedal myself. I found the Meleko pedal lacking. The empress was pretty neat. I have also been a fan of JHS pedals for a long time. Josh was the worship leader of my old church back in MS. I ended up with the supa trem. I found one used at a guitar center for $99. BarryMClark August 21st, 2011, 12:31 AM Fulltone builds his pedals in a rennovated old house in los angeles using a handful of employees.. He doesnt have a factory. This is a pro operation though no mistake about that, definitely not "homegrown" dude working at the back of his garage in the heat and the sweat till 2am every day. :) ps.. i do like this one Rockett Pedals Josh Smith Tremolo Guitar Pedal - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE3noJqc_N8) OK. That has to be one of the sexiest sounding trems I have ever heard. Almost makes me want to have a pedal. TV the Wired Turtle August 21st, 2011, 12:39 AM Mick... supa-trem is your answer! thus sayeth the Lord bubblyah August 21st, 2011, 11:35 AM I bet if you played at the Crystal Cathedral. Robert Schuller would only allow you on stage if acompanied by a Supa -Trem. He would say,"Themic, now you are in the big leagues. The lord is going to insist you play with Fulltone." :D TV the Wired Turtle August 21st, 2011, 02:21 PM I like plaster cathedrals best the reverb is epic themick August 21st, 2011, 04:31 PM One of the beauties about the church I serve is that I helped start it, and so I have a lot of liberty with what/how I play. I'm going to go with the Supa-Trem for 3 reasons... 1) decent price 2) sounds amazing 3) big nobbies I can control with my feet Now I'm waiting on my checking account to sync with Paypal. TV the Wired Turtle August 21st, 2011, 05:35 PM One of the beauties about the church I serve is that I helped start it, and so I have a lot of liberty with what/how I play. I'm going to go with the Supa-Trem for 3 reasons... 1) decent price 2) sounds amazing 3) big nobbies I can control with my feet Now I'm waiting on my checking account to sync with Paypal. you enjoy this time.. church plants are tough but fun. In one of my life adventures in ministry for a time I co- pastored an outreach church to the college arts community and skatepunks when I was in my late 20s.. We were sooo broke with loose change and crumpled 1 dollar bills in the offering plate but me and the other pastor cleaned the church building we were meeting downstairs in to cover rent.. it was a great time in life. bubblyah August 22nd, 2011, 10:12 AM @ themick if you haven't ordered your pedal yet I just got an e-mail from proguitarshop with a back to school coupon which is - school10 Hope that helps.:o themick August 22nd, 2011, 10:23 AM Sweet deal. That will definitely help. Thanks. I am Incinerator August 22nd, 2011, 12:17 PM I've heard that the Rockett Pedals JSDT is based off of the Brown fender trem, not sure if it is the Bias vary or the Harmonic trem? I've been looking out to get a new trem. The TR-2 is nice, but in a blah and lifeless way. I've been interested in the Swamp-Thang and the PLush Creme de la Trem lately. The Supa-Trem seems cool and it seems that a few stores here now carry Fulltone. Back when I was buying a few fulltone pedals years ago, only one shop here carried them. Now I'm getting tempted by Fuller's fruit again...especially since the 69 and Soul Bender are back! I've also heard great things about his cables. themick August 28th, 2011, 08:20 PM Finally got a tremolo! After going to the Chicago Music Exchange today and trying some stuff out, I walked away with the Melekko Trem Omnicron. Sounds great, good price, hand-built in US, and takes hardly any room on my board. cookedbutok August 28th, 2011, 11:09 PM I have been looking real close at that same tremolo. Does it seem sturdy and well built? How does it sound on a real big wave, subtle setting? hotraman August 28th, 2011, 11:13 PM Congrats on your new pedal! I have a Diamond Tremolo with tap tempo... very sweet. My new Strymon Timeline has tremolo/delay settings so I may be selling my tremolo. TV the Wired Turtle August 29th, 2011, 12:11 AM cool mick! I have a chicklet (replaced my spring chicken) ..btw anyone in canada this dude is selling one for $85 shipped http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=943083 Bionic Muffins August 29th, 2011, 12:30 AM i love the supa trem, but have always heard great things about the voodoo lab trem. ive never played one of the voodoo labs though. once you get in to more boutique stuff the catalinbread semaphore is hard to beat IMO. its even 10 bucks cheaper than the fulltone supa trem. themick August 29th, 2011, 10:40 AM I haven't had to much time to really tear this thing apart and play with it, but my first impressions were good enough to drop $100. I like the idea of the internal volume switch so that I don't accidentally bump it live. It's definitely sturdy, even with it's small stature. TV the Wired Turtle August 29th, 2011, 10:49 AM When I am ready to step up to a much fancier tremolo pedal, I have two pedals of interest. The Pigtronix Tremvelope and Iron Ether Cygnet. The Cygnet is a neat, all-analog pedal. http://ironether.com/wp-content/gallery/pedals/cygnet-pic3.jpg The envelope feature of the Tremvelope has me highly intrigued. dont forget this one http://bigcitymusic.com/images/TAW-S2.png Cusack Tap-A-Whirl V3 Rhythmic Waveforms Demo - YouTube bubblyah August 29th, 2011, 10:54 AM Finally got a tremolo! After going to the Chicago Music Exchange today and trying some stuff out, I walked away with the Melekko Trem Omnicron. Sounds great, good price, hand-built in US, and takes hardly any room on my board. Melekko's micro line intrested be about a year ago. The thing that shyed me off was alot of reviews about the jacks seperating internally. So be careful not to mount them on the board where the cable may cause unwanted pressure. This situation may have already been addressed by them too but just to be on the safe side. themick August 29th, 2011, 11:59 AM Thanks for the heads up. TV the Wired Turtle August 29th, 2011, 01:05 PM Melekko's micro line intrested be about a year ago. The thing that shyed me off was alot of reviews about the jacks seperating internally. So be careful not to mount them on the board where the cable may cause unwanted pressure. This situation may have already been addressed by them too but just to be on the safe side. the cheap factor always wins but there's a price to pay with PC mount jacks and sometimes its worse that just coming apart inside. The actual circuit board can crack the tracings.. Board mounted jacks save money and time but flying leads are correct method for a road worthy piece of gear. ps. If the top nut on the 3PDT stomp switch comes loose, then you're flexing the pcb against the jacks every time you step on it. done right and will last forever, easily repaired even by a vacuum repair shop on the road. (property of Farndurk.com) http://www.farndurk.com/images/products/guts-model9-v2x0-001.jpg done affordably (pcb mount jacks,switch,pots) and will eventually break down and not repaired easily unless you find a guy like me in town that knows how to do tricks with solder and superglue. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x125/mojomuskrat/rogue%20analog%20delay/IMG_6910.jpg DevilYouKnow August 29th, 2011, 03:45 PM I have been looking real close at that same tremolo. Does it seem sturdy and well built? How does it sound on a real big wave, subtle setting? Very well built - by hand in the USA. It's a lot like an amp term. Doesn't do choppy but covers a lot of ground. I love mine, especially for the micro size and one-bill price tag. Malekko uses some germanium component in the circuit that keeps the sound very warm. Internal volume control allows for use as a nice clean boost. Great pedal. Themick, congrats on your purchase. I have a three channel farndurk Tavo. The work is just as you've posted. Not just bullet, but bomb proof. Also sounds good too. Love his comp circuit. TV the Wired Turtle August 29th, 2011, 04:12 PM Very well built - by hand in the USA. It's a lot like an amp term. Doesn't do choppy but covers a lot of ground. I love mine, especially for the micro size and one-bill price tag. Malekko uses some germanium component in the circuit that keeps the sound very warm. Internal volume control allows for use as a nice clean boost. Great pedal. Themick, congrats on your purchase. I have a three channel farndurk Tavo. The work is just as you've posted. Not just bullet, but bomb proof. Also sounds good too. Love his comp circuit. You are my hero... That farndurk stuff is just the A+ in american small business manufacturing!! golf claps all around.. love it!! I think I'm gonna sell some stuff and get that comp! VictoriaDD59 September 1st, 2011, 08:48 AM I use the Swamp Thang, and I love it. It throbs just like a Brownface fender, it reminds me of the trem on my old 1961 Fender Super. Its warm, throbby and hypnotic, it sounds great for anything from Duane Eddy to Link Wray to Magic Sam. I've owned the Voodoo Labs and really enjoyed that one as well. IMHO, one of the best tremolo tones is that of Bo Ramsey and I know he uses a Fulltone Supa Trem. I also really love Doug Pettibone's trem sounds and Gurf Morlix, and I believe both of them used Supa Trems as well. Of course, Pop Staples may have the all time best tremolo tone, and I believe on that really early Staples stuff he was using a Tremolux, I know latter he went to a twin reverb and stayed. DevilYouKnow September 1st, 2011, 01:31 PM Here's another Farndurk gut-shot: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4746539410_6a8c1310bd_z.jpg And to stay on topic he takes custom orders for the Trema tremolo pedal: http://farndurk.com/images/products/trema1s.jpg From the Farndurk (http://farndurk.com/) website: The Farndurk TREMA (http://farndurk.com/index.php?product=trema) is a analog model of the EA Tremolo circuit. This is a very toneful tremolo, it's roots going back to 1965 when the circuit was developed. senojnad September 1st, 2011, 06:46 PM Another vote for the Fulltone Sups-Trem. I owned one for a couple of years -- sold it (sorry to say) when I bought Gretsch Executive amp. The Marlin September 2nd, 2011, 06:01 AM I have a Pigtronix Tremvelope. I love it, wouldn't swap it. Mr Marlin cookedbutok September 2nd, 2011, 10:17 AM very cool . hotraman October 9th, 2011, 07:37 PM you enjoy this time.. church plants are tough but fun. In one of my life adventures in ministry for a time I co- pastored an outreach church to the college arts community and skatepunks when I was in my late 20s.. We were sooo broke with loose change and crumpled 1 dollar bills in the offering plate but me and the other pastor cleaned the church building we were meeting downstairs in to cover rent.. it was a great time in life. Great story about your church plant! My Diamond Tremolo works well with a lot of the worship songs we play. I like the tap tempo feature and the "da-da-da" timing. senojnad October 9th, 2011, 07:49 PM Tried them all this is the one. One more vote for the SupaTrem. The best ever (including trmeolos built into some great vintage amps). I owned one and s0old it when I bought my Gretsch/Victoria amp -- which also had a fabulous tremolo. However, I bought a Standel 25L15 and then sold the Executive. So now I'm going to buy another Fulltone Supa-Trem. I won't even bother looking arouind at others. 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